Topic: Sound Forge 9.0 multi-channel mixing question

[Myco]

So I just used my new R-44 for the first time to record Les Claypool last Sun. night. I used two pair of mics and recorded using Stereo x 2 to get two stereo files recorded @ 24/48.

My question now is, "Can I mix the two 24/48 stereo files and get one mixed stereo file in 24/48 as an end product?" It appears that Sound Forge will only render a 16/44 file if I mix the two together. Does this sound right to any of you?

Thanks

[bugg100]

Take a look at Reaper at reaper.fm.  Really cool program.

[Digital Quality]

You can do that with SoX merge operation.

sox -M left.wav right.wav out.wav

[tfs8271]

I'm trying to figure this out as well.  I've been able to copy the one file and paste special (mix) to the other file.  I'm just not sure this is how you are suppose to do it.

[OFOTD]

SoundForge 9 does not allow you to render down from multiple channels to two channels.

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

I use Wavelab to mix multiple stereo recordings together.

Wavelab doesn't seem to work under Win 7, so I'm outta luck there...but it sounds like I should be able to run it again once the official Win 7 Pro is released.

[JD]

I use SF9 to mix four tracks down to 2 using the "channel converter" function.

Put all four of your tracks into a single quad track file, do any alignment needed. Then use the channel converter by selecting a percentage of each source (file) to go to either output 1 or output 2. (You must have the channel converter set for two output files.)

Example;
40% source 1 to output 1, 0%   to output 2
0%   source 2 to output 1, 40% to output 2
60% source 3 to output 1, 0%   to output 2
0%   source 4 to output 1, 60% to output 2

In this case sources 1&2 and 3&4 would be stereo files with 1&3 being the left channels and 3&4 being the right.

You can then sample the mix, although it only lets you listen to about 10 seconds.
I then just play around with the percentages until I find a mix that sounds like what I am after, then press OK to mix the tracks.


Kind of awkward the first time around, but it works.

JD

[tfs8271]

I use SF9 to mix four tracks down to 2 using the "channel converter" function.

Put all four of your tracks into a single quad track file, do any alignment needed. Then use the channel converter by selecting a percentage of each source (file) to go to either output 1 or output 2. (You must have the channel converter set for two output files.)

Example;
40% source 1 to output 1, 0%   to output 2
0%   source 2 to output 1, 40% to output 2
60% source 3 to output 1, 0%   to output 2
0%   source 4 to output 1, 60% to output 2

In this case sources 1&2 and 3&4 would be stereo files with 1&3 being the left channels and 2 3 &4 being the right.

You can then sample the mix, although it only lets you listen to about 10 seconds.
I then just play around with the percentages until I find a mix that sounds like what I am after, then press OK to mix the tracks.


Kind of awkward the first time around, but it works.

JD

Fixed it but I'm everyone picked that up.

[Gordon]

wavelab's montage is a piece of cake

[Myco]

I use SF9 to mix four tracks down to 2 using the "channel converter" function.

Put all four of your tracks into a single quad track file, do any alignment needed. Then use the channel converter by selecting a percentage of each source (file) to go to either output 1 or output 2. (You must have the channel converter set for two output files.)

Example;
40% source 1 to output 1, 0%   to output 2
0%   source 2 to output 1, 40% to output 2
60% source 3 to output 1, 0%   to output 2
0%   source 4 to output 1, 60% to output 2

In this case sources 1&2 and 3&4 would be stereo files with 1&3 being the left channels and 3&4 being the right.

You can then sample the mix, although it only lets you listen to about 10 seconds.
I then just play around with the percentages until I find a mix that sounds like what I am after, then press OK to mix the tracks.


Kind of awkward the first time around, but it works.

JD

Thank you much JD!

[momule]

wavelab's montage is a piece of cake

Samplitude is easier and much faster and has better dither / resample

[bugg100]

I guess what we're trying to say, is that many programs are much better for the growing R-44 army than sound forge for matrix.....

[OFOTD]

wavelab's montage is a piece of cake

Samplitude is easier and much faster and has better dither / resample

Better dither and resample?    Links?  Comps?    I use SF 9 with Ozone 3 and find the MBIT+ dither to be be as good as any other dither out there.  Cross platform too.     

For me personally if Sony would include a 'Render' feature similar to the one in WaveLab as well as a 64bit version (In the works for v10 I hear) it would rule the roost.  Extremely easy and simple interface.  Legacy support.   Multi-track. Large user base.    Samplitude is very similar to reaper in the sense that it giving you the capability of a product like Cubase when most on this board will use <5% of the capabilities.

[Gordon]

yea I use Ozone 3/MBIT+ with wavelab.  doesn't get much better than that 

and having never used Samplitude I can't comment on it.  but wavelab's montage to mix four channels is VERY easy and with my machine is fast as hell.  I always thought soundforge was slow but never wavelab.

[Myco]

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