Pretty moot question on my part regardless, sorry, I spaced on the details early on in the thread specifically related to feeling as though gain would be unnecessary for most of the taping they were doing, hence a BB being fine. Posted in a haste having trouble making heads or tails of the sound professionals site. If one *did* need an actual preamp alternative to the CA-UGLY/UGLY 2, I am curious if anyone has any recommendations. Is there anything that actually has similar form factor/size?