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R4 & R44 A>D Questions
« on: August 15, 2008, 02:07:22 PM »
SO many of y'all have seen my posts about the Soundfield and Sound Devices issues I've been having...well I'm also having some money issues too because god made water more corrosive than the stuff they put on my roof to protect me.  I have some serious bills coming up and might need to sell my 744 and move to an R4.

Running B Format to the R4 shouldn't be a problem, and I actually like the fact the gain control is on knobs for all 4 channels, vs 3&4 beign menu settingson the 744.

Anyone care to comment on likes / dislikes between the two (744 and R4) and specifcally how they feel about the A/D on the R4?

I can search, I know, but then you'd have to do work instead of wasting time posting on the internet talking about something you probably want to talk about anyway.

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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 02:13:47 PM »
jim pollock moved from a 744t> r4 pro a few months ago. and is running b format also. good luck hearing those though :P i think the r4 is very user friendly personally. i would look at the r44 also. the pre>a/d stage is a good bit cleaner than the stock r4.
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 02:17:45 PM »
Quote from: halleyscomet8 on August 15, 2008, 02:13:47 PM
jim pollock moved from a 744t> r4 pro a few months ago. and is running b format also. good luck hearing those though :P i think the r4 is very user friendly personally. i would look at the r44 also. the pre>a/d stage is a good bit cleaner than the stock r4.

Yep, Jim did this move a while back, and seems to like it.  Like you said, having 4 identical mic preamps is beneficial, unlike hauling around another stereo preamp or running line into channels 3+4 of the 744t.  I am not sure if there are dramatic differences between the r4 and r44's sound but I'm sure they have made improvements in the r44.
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 02:18:03 PM »
jimmyrow, you around?

Thanks for the feedback..I need to do some homework today.  The biggest pain running B Format is the gain settings for channels 3&4...they can't be adjusted easily without using an extrenal pre which is probably what SD had in mind.  And you need to unlock the box to do it...I always fear accidentally stopping my recording while I'm adjusting gain.

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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 02:32:41 PM »
It was my R4 Pro that Jimbo picked up.  I am a big homer to the R4 Pro and can't recommend it enough.  Personally I preferred the pres of the Pro model to the regular R4 (owned both models).   

Hopefully Jimbo is digging the unit as I was sorry to see it go.  Many times I wish I had held onto it instead of the 744. 



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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 02:41:34 PM »
I'm not too concerned about the preamps, just the A/D conversion...any thoughts there?  Any significant differences between the R4 and R4 Pro if I'm only using for A/D and as a bit bucket?
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 03:20:06 PM »
Just do it, that way you can move on to enjoying shows and making complete recordings instead of wating time and energy dealing with the current 350<>744 BS.  I'm sick of your bitching.   :P
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 03:30:04 PM »
Quote from: Craig T on August 15, 2008, 03:20:06 PM
Just do it, that way you can move on to enjoying shows and making complete recordings instead of wating time and energy dealing with the current 350<>744 BS.  I'm sick of your bitching.   :P

You suck.  Craig - T

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I'm hating life too...BTW, I made 3 complete tapes this week.
 
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Are you doing any shows this weekend?
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 03:36:56 PM »
Garage A Trois (Benevento-Skerik-Moore-Dillon) tonight at the North Star.  Get the 350 back on that stage!

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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 03:44:22 PM »
Quote from: Craig T on August 15, 2008, 03:36:56 PM
Garage A Trois (Benevento-Skerik-Moore-Dillon) tonight at the North Star.  Get the 350 back on that stage!

I'm not sure I'm fully recovered from Tue / Wed Lucero yet.  I need a break this weekend I think.

Plus I'm at 75% success rate, I don't want to fuck that up.
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 03:50:26 PM »
Quote from: F0CKER on August 15, 2008, 03:44:22 PM
Quote from: Craig T on August 15, 2008, 03:36:56 PM
Garage A Trois (Benevento-Skerik-Moore-Dillon) tonight at the North Star.  Get the 350 back on that stage!

I'm not sure I'm fully recovered from Tue / Wed Lucero yet.  I need a break this weekend I think.

Plus I'm at 75% success rate, I don't want to fuck that up.

I'll give Marco a call to let him know you're too much of a pussy to stay up past 11pm on a Friday night because you went out a few nights ago.  Maybe they'll reschedule for a night that works better for you... what's your next few weeks look like?
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 04:16:07 PM »
Forget the R4 - if you *have* to sell the SD, get an R4-Pro or an R44.

Personally, selling the SD would be a last resort action - if you have to do it, I feel sorry for you.

But the house and family have to come first.
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 04:41:32 PM »
Can anyone give me some details that support their statements?  Why the R4 Pro over the R4, etc?  What DAC chip is in the R4 / R4 Pro...etc. 

I'm only using the 744 as a bit bucket and it has some inherent disadvantages to the Edirols IMO in terms of ease of use when running B Format. 

I'll keep searching but I can't seem to locate much...
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 04:44:19 PM »
r44

I've run the 744 and r44 enough times to say, I am very impressed with the r44 pre's as well as the a/d.  My wallet thanks me as well  :P
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Re: R4 A>D
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 04:52:05 PM »
Quote from: Craig T on August 15, 2008, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: F0CKER on August 15, 2008, 03:44:22 PM
I'll give Marco a call to let him know you're too much of a pussy to stay up past 11pm on a Friday night because you went out a few nights ago.  Maybe they'll reschedule for a night that works better for you... what's your next few weeks look like?

Ask them to come back in October...I'm booked solid until then.
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