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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: One Cylinder on October 03, 2012, 04:31:44 PM
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Any recommendations on a lightweight clamp for clamping my ortf or din bar to another taper's mic stand? I'm running schoeps caps w/ active cables, so no need for a large, heavy clamp.
TIA
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Sure, the Rowi 76 is PERFECT for your needs ;) PM me and I just may have 1 for sale ;)
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Heard good things about the Rowi clamps but, unfortunately, have never used any.
The WindTech C-clamps (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/298908-REG/WindTech_MPC_10_Multi_Position_C_Type_Clamp.html) have always treated me very well and are pretty good for tight spaces and if you need a small footprint. On-Stage makes a version (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/712234-REG/On_Stage_TM01_TM01_Microphone_Table.html) that looks nearly identical but, having never tried it out, can't tell you how close it is to the original in terms of its build quality.
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I use an "Ultrapod", camera tripod, with a Schoeps a20 mount and a kwon bar.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=239963&Q=&is=REG&A=details
They are light weight and fairly cheap. It uses a velcro strap to attach to a stand.
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This is the solution I came up with and posted it in the knowledge base, it's very elegant and very lightweight too.
"Mini Cardellini Microphone Clamp with 3/8" Thread" (weight only 7 oz.) It's excellent for clamping to a stand as pictured and Rycote INV shock mounts will thread right on, no adapters necessary, the setup allows you to rotate and tilt the whole configuration to your desired angle. Shown here with my AKG Blueline Actives in ORTF configuration using Vark Bar.
(http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b419/DigiGal_taper/clamps/file-1.jpg)
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For light weight Rowi 76 is the way to go!!
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Of those mentioned above I have used both Rowis and Windtechs; either would work well. Another alternative not mentioned yet is the Manfrotto Nano (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/572347-REG/Manfrotto_386B_386B_Nano_Clamp.html). If you want it with a 1/4-3/8 reversible short stud (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/682652-REG/Manfrotto_386BC_386B_Nano_Clamp.html) it'll cost you about $9 more.
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Of those mentioned above I have used both Rowis and Windtechs; either would work well. Another alternative not mentioned yet is the Manfrotto Nano (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/572347-REG/Manfrotto_386B_386B_Nano_Clamp.html). If you want it with a 1/4-3/8 reversible short stud (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/682652-REG/Manfrotto_386BC_386B_Nano_Clamp.html) it'll cost you about $9 more.
X2. WAY better than a Windtech, easily worth the extra cost..
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1cylinder,
if you have not already purchased a stand clamp, I have an Atlas clamp which is a Windtech knock-off that I'd be willing to give to you for free. I just ask that you cover shipping. PM me for details if interested...
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I also like the Rowi clamps because they come with a wood screw so you can screw the clamp into a tree or anything wooden, and realistically get wherever you want to :) I have a Windtech too, mine is about 14 years old tho :P Def seen its better days but is foolproof and works like a charm. The tightening screw that actually touches the stand will eventually break free and FUCK UP your stand tho :P :( Thats why I recommend Rowi clamps for most clamping situations :)
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>>>> Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll probably end up w/ going with Flipp's recommendation as per above, and purchase one of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/572347-REG/Manfrotto_386B_386B_Nano_Clamp.html This Manfrotto piece seems to be the smallest/lightest clamp around, & as i'm only runnning mic caps and a schoeps bar i don't need a larger/heavier one.
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nano > rowi > windtech
You want a small clamping setup on the cheap? That's just about it (and the screw is event changeable to a 90 degree turn, just change the rapid adaptor):
(http://i.imgur.com/JURpA.jpg?1)
(dollar coin used as it's the only size reference I have handy, but that's a 3/8th screw on the head)
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......... Hard to beat that rig for size and (I imagine) cost. Is it stable?
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I've seen a ADK A51TL hung a with a Nano....get two and make a sweet Blumlein setup on your stands vertical colum...it's stable....
Page what kind of Stud is screwed into your Nano?
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I've seen a ADK A51TL hung a with a Nano....get two and make a sweet Blumlein setup on your stands vertical colum...it's stable....
Page what kind of Stud is screwed into your Nano?
;D
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I've seen a ADK A51TL hung a with a Nano....get two and make a sweet Blumlein setup on your stands vertical colum...it's stable....
Page what kind of Stud is screwed into your Nano?
;D
hey Bryonsos...I forgot that we hung the Pipebomb (Busman LD Stereo Mic) on a stand with one Nano at the Casbah...is it heavier than a single TL?
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I've seen a ADK A51TL hung a with a Nano....get two and make a sweet Blumlein setup on your stands vertical colum...it's stable....
Page what kind of Stud is screwed into your Nano?
;D
hey Bryonsos...I forgot that we hung the Pipebomb (Busman LD Stereo Mic) on a stand with one Nano at the Casbah...is it heavier than a single TL?
Definitely. The 2 TLs together are heavier though, and I had them both clamped to the stand under your stereo bar and umbrella during the monsoon last month. I wouldn't trust a Windtech for that duty, but the Nano works like a charm. Plus, even with a nut and a rapid adapter, it's a pretty small solution.
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I wouldn't trust a Windtech for that duty, but the Nano works like a charm. Plus, even with a nut and a rapid adapter, it's a pretty small solution.
The Mini Cardellini clamp I pictured earlier doesn't need any adapters, it's very sturdy, small and for me a perfect solution, weighing in at 7 oz. it's lightweight too. A Skinny Mini Cardellini is also available which is only 6 oz. if weight is that critical for you.
The Nano clamp all by itself is lighter but by the time you add a stud and a rapid adapter it's the same weight as a Mini Cardellini or a Windtech C-Clamp.
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cinemasupplies_2228_163332168)
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I've seen a ADK A51TL hung a with a Nano....get two and make a sweet Blumlein setup on your stands vertical colum...it's stable....
Page what kind of Stud is screwed into your Nano?
;D
^Thanks for the chuckle. Caught me off guard for some reason and I damn near soiled myself.
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I wouldn't trust a pair of LDs on it personally, but I believe in trending toward engineering for overkill when it comes to safety. If you're going to do that, atleast make sure you use the 3/8ths connector and not the 1/4.
......... Hard to beat that rig for size and (I imagine) cost. Is it stable?
mine is, I use the rapid adaptor purely for orientation purposes. When it's horizontal and screwed on tight, the shockmount doesn't move (thread tight on the adaptor) and the RA doesn't move since gravity is working against the stud (and it's screwed on tight with a raised lip between it and the exit).
I could even hang stuff up side down courtesy of that raised lip which would prevent the mics and mount from falling off in the unlikely event that the rapid adaptor screw came a little loose.
Just make sure to look up what the posted failure weights are for the nano. It's something like 7lbs which isn't a ton, but it's more than enough for standard SD mics and active/remotes.
Page what kind of Stud is screwed into your Nano?
check tim's thread on clamping, it's near the end of that, macdaddy recommended the stud as I was originally using a slightly longer one. I think it's $4 or so.
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A 16p nail is rated for ~200lbs of carrying capacity. That's pretty crap metal that we rely on to hold our houses together. I have no problem putting a few pounds of load on a Nano and a stud connected by the 3/8 screw. Mannfrotto uses quality materials.
For me, the issue is the center of balance and contact points. A Nano keeps things close to the center of gravity with a short stud, and it makes WAY more contact with the stand than a Windtech. As such, Windtechs can easily crimp a stand pole if you over tighten them, wheresas a Nano has a wider grip and you'd have to über overtightened it to crimp the pole. I have a Windtech that I no longer use, but I won't sell it because I think they're shitty, and I don't think any of us should be using them. YMMV
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(http://static.bhphoto.com/images/images150x150/438701.jpg)
This one page?
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(http://static.bhphoto.com/images/images150x150/438701.jpg)
This one page?
Yep. Looks right, i have that other piece somewhere.