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SAX>722 issue
« on: January 21, 2007, 02:14:07 PM »
i I just got a sonosax MX/LS the lemo version, and when i run it into the 722 at 40 db and the 722 cranked, I don't hit 12 db on the 722.  I tried tests with the mics>722 and the levels seem fine.  I also tried tests with a V3>722 at the same gain and the levels hit way over 12.  I am just trying to figure out what the deal is.  I have a feeling that it is a bad sax.  I also borrowed a sax before and didn't have this issue.  I am just looking for some feed back, thanks


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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2007, 02:16:54 PM »
Check the Sax batteries.  If they're low, it'll output a low level signal.  Also check to confirm you're running Hi or Lo gain on the Sax, as the gain ranges are different.
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007, 02:21:45 PM »
The batteries are fresh batteries, and the gain settings was set to low and cranked to 40db
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 02:34:14 PM »
The batteries are fresh batteries, and the gain settings was set to low and cranked to 40db

Define "fresh"?  I've had more than my share of brand-spanking-new batts that were bunk.  Still the likeliest cause, I think.  I'd at least test with a known-good set of batteries, not just "new".

HPF turned on?  That would cut levels some, too.
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 09:29:01 AM »
The batteries are fresh batteries, and the gain settings was set to low and cranked to 40db

Define "fresh"?  I've had more than my share of brand-spanking-new batts that were bunk.  Still the likeliest cause, I think.  I'd at least test with a known-good set of batteries, not just "new".

HPF turned on?  That would cut levels some, too.

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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2007, 10:54:47 AM »
fresh=bought them the day before the shows, bought a Energizer MAX
Alkaline 9V Battery -6 Pack

I've had bunk new batteries from both Energizer and Duracell.  Haven't tried many others.  Could just be because I use(d) them less, but I've not stumbled across any bad out-of-the-box lithium 9v batts.  Might be worth a try.  Might be worthwhile to test them in other high-draw gear if you have any lying around.
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2007, 10:58:45 AM »
i will try out lithiums, just doesn't make sense. 
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2007, 11:05:10 AM »
lithiums are expensive, i am going to try another brand, maybe batteries at radio shack.  doesn't make sense considering, i used one before with the same type of batteries.
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2007, 11:18:51 AM »
I've run a sax into a 722 before and it just worked like any other preamp. You have some kind of issue with your gear.  I'd suspect battery or cable.  The sax has a battery light on it. I'd think that would tell you if the bats were bad.


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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 11:21:42 AM »
I've run a sax into a 722 before and it just worked like any other preamp. You have some kind of issue with your gear.  I'd suspect battery or cable.  The sax has a battery light on it. I'd think that would tell you if the bats were bad.



batteries were brand new, very odd.  the v3>7ss is fine as well as mics>722
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 11:35:42 AM »
The batteries are fresh batteries, and the gain settings was set to low and cranked to 40db

try the high gain setting?
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 11:39:48 AM »
high works, but i still have it cranked to 50 and don't get 12. 
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 11:44:43 AM »
lithiums are expensive, i am going to try another brand, maybe batteries at radio shack.  doesn't make sense considering, i used one before with the same type of batteries.

you have a ten-thousand dollar rig and lithium batts are "expensive"? :)
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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2007, 11:46:40 AM »
lithiums are expensive, i am going to try another brand, maybe batteries at radio shack.  doesn't make sense considering, i used one before with the same type of batteries.

you have a ten-thousand dollar rig and lithium batts are "expensive"? :)

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Re: SAX>722 issue
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2007, 11:49:10 AM »
Hopefully it's not the sax.  You probably should try different cables, both mic cables and interconnect cables, to make sure it is not them.

When I sold my akg/jklabs set-up, Tommy who bought it was having a very similar problem.  Turned out to be a problem with the interconnects he was using, and a new pair fixed everything up for him.

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