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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: Ian on June 08, 2005, 07:52:00 PM
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Well, I'm finishing putting together a rig, and I need a bag to fit everything. I could take my stuff to the store, but I'm afraid of being "stared" at. The problem I run into is whether or not to carry my microphones in the bag or in their case, seen here: http://www.pelusomicrophonelab.com/CEMC6SK.html
I would be running the CEMC6>V3>JB3 and I have an eco-charge battery for the V3. I'll have a pair of mic cables, an optical cable, my little Iriver for backup recording, a pair of XLR>RCA, a t-bar, and depending on the downsizing of the mics and their case, that stuff too.
I searched the site to look at bag suggestions, and I like the Lowepro Nova 4. I also saw many people using the Mountainsmith "Cairn", but I can't find it on their website. So what I'm asking is, what would you suggest as a bag for my gear? How would I get my mic container downsized with some sort of hard plastic covering for the mics? And where can I found this "Cairn"? Thanks, Peace, -Ian
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http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=mountainsmith+cairn&btnG=Search+Froogle
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search www.cases4less.com for a pelican 1060 micro case for a nice fit for your mics, just check out the specs to make sure they'll fit nicely, and order the pick n pluck foam ;)
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I used the Nova 4 for a couple of months an it's a great bag.. the only reason I sold it was to move into a rakgear...
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This is the bag I use http://www.wolfcamera.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10101&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=30135&bct=t1004%3Bc1018%3Bc1001741 . This thing is bad! I haven't used it too much but I can tell its going to be around for a while. Plenty of room and tons of padding. I'm very happy with it so far.
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lowepro nova 5 is my bag, and i love that damn thing.
Ray
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I just bought this Mountainsmith Camera Pack. It is awesome. I can close it all up in the rain. It has waterproof zippers, and a V3 viewing window on the top.
(http://www.mountainsmith.com/store/shop_image/product/2c44dab880f8e21ff634fbc7a4ba2221.jpg)
DON’T LEAVE THAT EXTRA LENS OR BODY AT HOME; THE BEEFY SUSPENSION SYSTEM ON THIS PACK LETS YOU CARRY IT ALL IN ALL-DAY COMFORT.
FEATURES
• Main panel access • Padded interior compartments for camera gear organization • Simple waistbelt • Top access to SLR caseLeash point for tripod attachment • Large bottom storage area • Airmesh back panel • Side mesh pockets • 2 large front pockets • Side and bottom compression straps • Tuck-away Rain Cover
CONSTRUCTION
• Polyethelene framesheet • 420d Velocity material • Padded waistbelt • Urethane coated zippers • Soft Tricot lining • Hypalon pull-tabs
BEST FIT: MULTIPLE SLR BODIES + LENSES, ACCESSORIES AND GEAR
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that is a nice bag!
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I forgot to mention that the bag is called the Mountainsmith Paragon Camera Bag. www.mountainsmith.com (http://www.mountainsmith.com)
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If you don't want to spend a bundle, do what I did - go to some local camera stores and just look at their inventory of bags. I found a *perfect* camera bag for < 50 bucks. It's nice and big, has adjustable sections and lots of pockets.
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The backpack came in real handy, when I was walking around NYC, going to Panic. I stayed in Brooklyn and had to trek to RCMH each day and night, with shopping and eating along the way. It got heavy after a while. If I had to carry it all day without it being on my back, I wouldn't have made it. Most of the time it just goes from my car to the venue, but when you fly to shows, it really comes in handy. It also has an external tripod/umbrella holder on each side. I paid $60.00 wholesale so I assume it is around $100.00.
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http://www.geeks.com has had a few very good bags at surreal prices.
They've done me righteous several times this year.
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I just bought this Mountainsmith Camera Pack. It is awesome. I can close it all up in the rain. It has waterproof zippers, and a V3 viewing window on the top.
Are the dividers configurable to form different sized compartments?
Any chance you're willing to snap and post a few pics of the bag with your gear inside, showing each compartment / pocket?
I've had difficulty finding any pics online other than the standard Mountainsmith ones, which aren't very helpful (they don't even show where the window resides). I'm starting to schlep around 2 full sets of gear. No, really...I am. My Mountainsmith Blaze simply won't fit it all. And while it all fits in my RakGear KickFlip, I'd like a bag with slightly more divisions / pockets for storing gear. As it is, the KF really only has two big, main compartments so I'm not able to organize my gear very well, it's all just kinda chucked in.
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I went the backpack route. After a couple weeks researching I finally made a decision and the bag arrived last night. It's a Targus Pulse (model #RG0315c - Targus bags with RG in the model # incorporate some Rakgear components) and the best deal I found on it was at buy.com for $30.04 w/free shipping. It has a built-in sleeve for a laptop which I am using to hold the case which contains my mics. It has several other sections and many pockets including one that holds a jb3 perfectly. The 14.5"x11"x18.25" dimensions give plenty of room. It also has thick padded, ergonomic shoulder straps and a waist strap for distributing the load.
The Targus website (http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=RG0315C) has basic info, and there's a review here (http://www.epinions.com/content_153811521156).
If you want to go a little bigger, check out the Targus Matrix, model RG0322. I also considered:
Ultimate Direction 'Freelance'
REI Alpine pack (3100 cu and currently at REI Outlet for $34.93)
Lowepro EX1300. Others here say if you're buying a Lowepro, get it from Photococan - an eBay store.
I believe the original Mountainsmith Cairn and Blaze have been discontinued and replaced with the Cairn II and Blaze II. I couldn't tell you the differences, but Campmor carries them (http://www.campmor.com).
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I just bought this Mountainsmith Camera Pack. It is awesome. I can close it all up in the rain. It has waterproof zippers, and a V3 viewing window on the top.
Are the dividers configurable to form different sized compartments?
Any chance you're willing to snap and post a few pics of the bag with your gear inside, showing each compartment / pocket?
I've had difficulty finding any pics online other than the standard Mountainsmith ones, which aren't very helpful (they don't even show where the window resides). I'm starting to schlep around 2 full sets of gear. No, really...I am. My Mountainsmith Blaze simply won't fit it all. And while it all fits in my RakGear KickFlip, I'd like a bag with slightly more divisions / pockets for storing gear. As it is, the KF really only has two big, main compartments so I'm not able to organize my gear very well, it's all just kinda chucked in.
They can be made to fit everything nice. I definately did some customizing. I will take some photo's, and post them.
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I went the backpack route. After a couple weeks researching I finally made a decision and the bag arrived last night. It's a Targus Pulse (model #RG0315c - Targus bags with RG in the model # incorporate some Rakgear components) and the best deal I found on it was at buy.com for $30.04 w/free shipping. It has a built-in sleeve for a laptop which I am using to hold the case which contains my mics. It has several other sections and many pockets including one that holds a jb3 perfectly. The 14.5"x11"x18.25" dimensions give plenty of room. It also has thick padded, ergonomic shoulder straps and a waist strap for distributing the load.
The Targus website (http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=RG0315C) has basic info, and there's a review here (http://www.epinions.com/content_153811521156).
If you want to go a little bigger, check out the Targus Matrix, model RG0322. I also considered:
Ultimate Direction 'Freelance'
REI Alpine pack (3100 cu and currently at REI Outlet for $34.93)
Lowepro EX1300. Others here say if you're buying a Lowepro, get it from Photococan - an eBay store.
I believe the original Mountainsmith Cairn and Blaze have been discontinued and replaced with the Cairn II and Blaze II. I couldn't tell you the differences, but Campmor carries them (http://www.campmor.com).
in regards to your targus bag... i noticed you said that models with the RG incorporate some rakgear tech... the website says its a 'soft rack'... what the hell is that... i was looking for a RG for a while and saw a few of these, but never made the plunge b/c of the soft rack... i figured i needed a hard rack.
fwiw, i grabbed an immaculate rakgear off of ebay for 35 shipped.
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I use the Lowepro Nova 5 AW bag. The Nova 4 was just a little too small. Maybe if I had some actives it would be better.
A thread with pics of my setup is here:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=42962.0
I always found that most backpack setups seemed to always end up being a mess for me. I can be setup in 5 minutes flat and broken down in damn near the same time. The Nova 5 is well laid out. Not as obvious as a backpack (been turned away at a venue with a 'no backpacks' policy but let in with the nova 5. )
Another advantage is the rain fly that is built-in.
For mic storage I use these plastic boxes that I lined with some extra foam. Got them at the Container Store for like $4.
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check out www.sierratradingpost.com for an assortment of really nice backpacks mostly 40% off ;)
I got a Kelty Redwing last summer for 40-50 bucks, the bag is retailed for 100 :) its nice and padded and has some nice pockets and is really durable, i walked into coventry 10 miles w/ it, was pretty comfortable minus the 100+ pounds of taping gear/clothes/shoes i had in it
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I just bought this Mountainsmith Camera Pack. It is awesome. I can close it all up in the rain. It has waterproof zippers, and a V3 viewing window on the top.
(http://www.mountainsmith.com/store/shop_image/product/2c44dab880f8e21ff634fbc7a4ba2221.jpg)
DON’T LEAVE THAT EXTRA LENS OR BODY AT HOME; THE BEEFY SUSPENSION SYSTEM ON THIS PACK LETS YOU CARRY IT ALL IN ALL-DAY COMFORT.
FEATURES
• Main panel access • Padded interior compartments for camera gear organization • Simple waistbelt • Top access to SLR caseLeash point for tripod attachment • Large bottom storage area • Airmesh back panel • Side mesh pockets • 2 large front pockets • Side and bottom compression straps • Tuck-away Rain Cover
CONSTRUCTION
• Polyethelene framesheet • 420d Velocity material • Padded waistbelt • Urethane coated zippers • Soft Tricot lining • Hypalon pull-tabs
BEST FIT: MULTIPLE SLR BODIES + LENSES, ACCESSORIES AND GEAR
This bag looks pretty sweet. If i were getting a new bag i would look into this one.
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in regards to your targus bag... i noticed you said that models with the RG incorporate some rakgear tech... the website says its a 'soft rack'... what the hell is that... i was looking for a RG for a while and saw a few of these, but never made the plunge b/c of the soft rack... i figured i needed a hard rack.
fwiw, i grabbed an immaculate rakgear off of ebay for 35 shipped.
The soft rack is nothing at all like the 'real' rakgear racks. :-\ It's more of a divider for folders/files (or in my case, cables). I'm considering picking up the Target shelves for an easier layout, but I'm cool with everything the way it is for now. I'm a pack rat and like to bring EVERYTHING I could possible need plus extras in case someone else forgets something.
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can someone give me an idea on what size bag to get?
i see the most common is the Nova 5 but also see lots use the 4
i have akg391 (which i have to figure out how i am going to store/carry those)
UA-5
JB3
Bumblebee VR Box
Walmart battery
15' star quad straight xlr
2 VR cables 18"
Optical cable--prob getting the 3m one
windtech shockmounts
duct tape
minimag light
SVU-x incoming with 3' cable
i have always pref bagpacks and see some of the camera backpacks look nice
i quess my main "problem" is that i am not sure how i will set up the ua5 in any bag and keep things organized
thanks a lot
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i have akg391 (which i have to figure out how i am going to store/carry those)
Pelican 1060. These thins are awesome. I would definitely add some foam to the top though. Good luck on a good bag.
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i have akg391 (which i have to figure out how i am going to store/carry those)
Pelican 1060. These thins are awesome. I would definitely add some foam to the top though. Good luck on a good bag.
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i have akg391 (which i have to figure out how i am going to store/carry those)
Pelican 1060. These thins are awesome. I would definitely add some foam to the top though. Good luck on a good bag.
beat me to it ;D
That's right - don't forget the top foam
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you may want to look at the 1050, I have the 1060, its much deeper than I need for my c4s. You should be able to get by with the 1050, my buddy uses it with some ADK SC-Ts just fine. Double check with your mic specs, but you should be ok with the 1050 and be able to save some space. YMMV
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can the top foam be bought at cases4less too or did you guys just get that at a arts and craft store or something?
thanks
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can the top foam be bought at cases4less too or did you guys just get that at a arts and craft store or something?
thanks
arts store/crafts store
i believe i have 2 x .5" pieces, so a 1inch piece would be ideal!
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I just bought this Mountainsmith Camera Pack. It is awesome. I can close it all up in the rain. It has waterproof zippers, and a V3 viewing window on the top.
Are the dividers configurable to form different sized compartments?
Any chance you're willing to snap and post a few pics of the bag with your gear inside, showing each compartment / pocket?
I've had difficulty finding any pics online other than the standard Mountainsmith ones, which aren't very helpful (they don't even show where the window resides). I'm starting to schlep around 2 full sets of gear. No, really...I am. My Mountainsmith Blaze simply won't fit it all. And while it all fits in my RakGear KickFlip, I'd like a bag with slightly more divisions / pockets for storing gear. As it is, the KF really only has two big, main compartments so I'm not able to organize my gear very well, it's all just kinda chucked in.
They can be made to fit everything nice. I definately did some customizing. I will take some photo's, and post them.
post the pics of this...please!
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can the top foam be bought at cases4less too or did you guys just get that at a arts and craft store or something?
thanks
arts store/crafts store
i believe i have 2 x .5" pieces, so a 1inch piece would be ideal!
+t
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Here's my gear in a targus rackgear
ua-5, wal-mart battery, svu-1, box for mics and windscreens, 15 ft xlr's, headphones, jb3, rca>1/8", optical cable
middle pocket is a md recorder and md's, rca > 1/8" and a minimag
very front pocket is the t-bar and shockmounts
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/jdh263/204164942_l.jpg)
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Will,
I really think you should go no smaller than a Nova 5, reason...
I had pair 391's (in tupperware which was smaller than pelican), wal mart lith ion, UA-5, 2 jb3's, vert bar, clamp, and 15' mini star quad, and two sabra mounts (easily collapsable) and it barely fit in the bag. You will have much more stuff, but with some creative packing you should be alright.
For the UA-5 get a white metal shelf that they have for kitchens, the ones with the screens really cheap. Bend it around like a cage so you can leave the optical cable and the RCA's in the back, then get right angles and leave the front plugged in.
Search Target Rack for what I am talking about.
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Will,
I really think you should go no smaller than a Nova 5, reason...
I had pair 391's (in tupperware which was smaller than pelican), wal mart lith ion, UA-5, 2 jb3's, vert bar, clamp, and 15' mini star quad, and two sabra mounts (easily collapsable) and it barely fit in the bag. You will have much more stuff, but with some creative packing you should be alright.
For the UA-5 get a white metal shelf that they have for kitchens, the ones with the screens really cheap. Bend it around like a cage so you can leave the optical cable and the RCA's in the back, then get right angles and leave the front plugged in.
Search Target Rack for what I am talking about.
thanks as usual
+t
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I dunno about backpacks as gear bags. I've always been paranoid about some security/admin. person getting picky if a policy bans backpacks and not letting me in...
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I dunno about backpacks as gear bags. I've always been paranoid about some security/admin. person getting picky if a policy bans backpacks and not letting me in...
what do you use?
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I dunno about backpacks as gear bags. I've always been paranoid about some security/admin. person getting picky if a policy bans backpacks and not letting me in...
that almost happened to me last night, the guy at the door told me the backpack (rakgear) would have to go back to the car, i had already been talking to another security guard about getting audio gear in for Scofield, as soon as I got the ok from the venue the door guy didn't care it was a backpack. i can definately understand your aprehension about using a backpack, but I would guess that they would apply the policy to any bag aside from a chicks purse.
i love the rakgear bag though, so much space, yeah its big, but oh so nice to be able to leave everything pretty much set up without worrying about cramping cables or anything like that. plus i prefer having a backpack on while standing in line or walking around with the gear. i would bet no matter which bag you decide on, if it doesn't work for you, someone here would probably take it off your hands. but of course YMMV
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oh so nice to be able to leave everything pretty much set up without worrying about cramping cables or anything like that. plus i prefer having a backpack on while standing in line or walking around with the gear.
My Nova 5 has all my gear setup without any cramping of cables at all. I just plug the battery cable in, fly my mics, plug the xlr's in and i'm golden. Ready to run in just a couple of minutes depending on how light or dark the room is.
I have been turned away at a few venues when I ran a friend's rig which was in a backpack and have never has those types of issues with the Nova 5. It is fairly small and compact has a comfortable should strap and you can even order the backpack style should straps for very little. I always found when running a backpack style bag that it enevitably always became a mess and I had to spent time that I didn't want to to clean the bag up when I got home.
Another positive about the Nova 5 is that it fits perfectly sideways in the narrowest of arena/shed/stadium seats. Also it has a built in rain fly to keep you gear dry from rain/beer/drunks.
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I'm gonna try the Mountainsmith Vibe II lumbar pack for stealthing - haven't seen it in person yet, but it looks like it should fit:
Jukebox 3
AD-20
Soundpro Battery Box
SVU-1
PowerRunner 2300
Anyone seen this?