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shpy:
I currency using SP-CMC-2-XLR
https://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-2-XLR

I WANT TO UPGRADE my current mics with something new for better sound in similar price range.

founds:
- Oktava MK012-01 max  - spl 130 is to weak i think.
- Sennheiser E614
- SE Electronics SE8
- SP-CMC-4U-PHANTOM (U853)

goodcooker:
It's certainly possible for concert sound levels to reach 130dB or higher but it would be extremely painful to be in the room.

Any mic that can handle 125 dB or higher would be suitable for just about any concert recording from the audience if you have the capability to move farther from the source if you get to the limit.

Handy explanation and links here - http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-SoundAndDistance.htm

The Sennheiser have a claimed max SPL of 139dB. That's about like standing next to a jet plane taking off.
The Oktavas have a max of 130. I have them and have used them for close miking a jazz drummer. Easily as loud as a metal show when used that close. No problems.

It's more likely that you will have to worry about your preamp or the input stage of your recorder when recording at high SPL.

yug du nord:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mpmgumby+sennheiser+e614&oq=mpmgumby+sennheiser+e614&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.46223j0j7&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sbfbu=1&pi=mpmgumby%20sennheiser%20e614&scso=_c7JKXr2IJsiEsAXr0K2wBw40:0

Google links to some recordings. 
For "normal loud" rock shows, I think E614 can sound great IMO.

heathen:
I've used the e614s a bit.  I think they're a good value.  Here are some examples:

https://archive.org/details/kungfu2019-04-12.e614
https://archive.org/details/garaj2019-05-31.e614.OCT.flac1648
https://archive.org/details/goose2019-02-02.OCT2.e614.AT4031
https://archive.org/details/Spyscraper2019-02-02.e614.AT4031
https://archive.org/details/mdb2020-01-24.e614.DPA4061.flac1648

Note those last three combine the e614s with other mics, so you're not hearing ONLY the e614s.  I'd also note that I think the sound in the room for the Garaj Mahal and Mike Dillon Band shows were not very good, so take those with a grain of salt (having seen a few shows in that room now I think it's just a pretty bad sounding room).  You can at least hear that the mics can handle the SPL of a loud show, though.

shpy:
Thanks :) it sounds dynamic and clear :) nice, but maybe someone had cmc-2 and changed to one of those mics.. is there noticeable difference, is it worth for changing. Can't have both :)

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