Topic: M1 DAT bit rate?

[silverbullet]

I just got a v3 yesterday  Going to test it out this weekend or sooner. I learned from the JB3 FAQ that the JB3 will take at most 16bit/48kHz. What about the signal to a M1 ? Can I send a 24bit signal or higher kHz signal to the M1?

My v3 has a TOSlink output making it easy to send to the JB3. What exactly do I need to send a TOSlink output to a M1 DAT? I have a coaxiail to 7pin I've used to clone DAT but I'm not sure if there is an opt>7pin cable available and where to purchase one. I'd rather not get a opt>coaxial converter. Ideally I'd like to record to a JB3 and a M1 as a backup source from my v3. Not sure that is a good idea or how to go about it.

any help is appreciated.

[kennedy]

you can only record 16/44.1 & 16/48 on the M1
going v3>m1 optical ,youll need a optical>7pin which i think sony makes or there is an inbetween to convert your spdif 7pin
search around the forum youll see something on v3>?(optical)>DAT
hope this helps
peace

[silverbullet]

thanks. I'm on the verge of having to get a laptop computer to record 24bit/96.  A whole bunch of questions there for another discussion thread but let me continue to research some more.

[caymanreview]

laptop is the way to go

v3 > m-audio audiophile > laptop @ 24/96... yummy

im doing the warm mod firewire 410 > laptop @ 24/96 and love it!

[dr.ph0b]

doesnt the V3 have multiple digital outputs? (so u dont have to have both devices on the same digi chain)

[Brian Skalinder]

doesnt the V3 have multiple digital outputs? (so u dont have to have both devices on the same digi chain)

The V3 has multiple digital outputs, but they all share the same output bit-depth/sample rate.  So they're ALL 16-bit/44.1k or 24/48 or whatever bit-depth/sample rate you choose.  So you can't run 24-bit out AES to laptop and 16-bit out coax to DAT.

[Tim]

Apogee 1 Grace Designs 978,576,342

[silverbullet]

laptop is the way to go

v3 > m-audio audiophile > laptop @ 24/96... yummy

im doing the warm mod firewire 410 > laptop @ 24/96 and love it!

m-audio audiophile keeps popping up. I also came across Edirol FA-101 but really know nothing about it. It looks like I can feed about 10 channels and mix it. What I really want to do is that about ten channels from the stage (vocals, bass, guitars, drum mics) record them all separating along with a AUD recording and mix all that stuff at home. So is this just wishful thinking or can I do this with the Edirol FA-101 and the right recording software. I'm hoping this dream can come true.

[F.O.Bean]

Apogee 1 Grace Designs 978,576,342

so true, so true

[wboswell]

You'll use the optical output on the V3 to send the jb3 a signal (via optical s/pdif) and you'll use the rca ouput to send the M1 a signal (via coaxial s/pdif).  Both are always active.  Engage the ANSR function to dither the 24bit signal to 16 bit and set the recording freq at either 48k or 44.1. 

[ChoobieWoobie]

The highest bit rate that you can acheive on DAT is 20-bit.  And that's only with the Sony SBM-1 accessory.

[macdaddy]

The highest bit rate that you can acheive on DAT is 20-bit.  And that's only with the Sony SBM-1 accessory.

i thought that those units, even the modded ones, still dither down to 16 bit...

i also thought DAT is inherently 16 bit.

[C.Clark]

The highest bit rate that you can acheive on DAT is 20-bit.  And that's only with the Sony SBM-1 accessory.

i thought that those units, even the modded ones, still dither down to 16 bit...

i also thought DAT is inherently 16 bit.

this is true, the a/d in the sbm1 is 20 bit and is dithered down
to 16bit with super bit mapping, hence the name sbm1

[wacky]

DAT isn't inherently 16 bit.

Tascam made/makes a 48k/24bit DAT machine it records at double speed.

Masterlink also made/makes a 24 bit CD recorder.

Both are home units, and not suited for our uses, but they do exist.

[Tim]

Alesis makes the Masterlink. It burns redbook CD's (16/44.1). You can record 24bit to the internal harddrive but you can't burn a "24 bit CD"...

[creekfreak]

laptop is the way to go

v3 > m-audio audiophile > laptop @ 24/96... yummy

im doing the warm mod firewire 410 > laptop @ 24/96 and love it!

yummie is correct