Topic: Schoeps small rig

[funkoff13]

ahhhh brilliant, when your backed into a corner resort to the old dick sucking line....talk about originality  

hows this for an offer?

eat a  bag of dicks and ill borrow someone elses?

that was the point....

i think i did offer up my box....maybe a reread is in order.  i have to admit i will need some sort of legally binding contract with you as i dont trust that you wouldn't sell it behind my back in the YS for a profit. 

and what does any of that have to do with the fact that you have ripped off other members. 

i think you need some new material, just sayin'. i think that joke got tired oh, a few years ago

unless youre gonna volunteer your nbox for this experiment, i dont see a lot of intelligent contribution to the thread from your end, just sayin'

jerryfreak, shouldn't you be in the YS finding gear to buy from one member and sell to another at a profit?  i'm not sayin' i'm just sayin'

[jerryfreak]

i gotta laugh, ive never even heard of you, and i looked up your profile to see your posts. do you really just troll the ts board all day? pretty weak.

over it. i come here for intelligent discussion, if i wanna get trolled i'll go hang out on PT

i'm gonna borrow a friends n-box and report back. maybe i'll run it side-by-side the cmrs at RR if i can line up another set of 41s/4vs/21's

-out-

[funkoff13]

i gotta laugh, ive never even heard of you, and i looked up your profile to see your posts. do you really just troll the ts board all day? pretty weak.

over it. i come here for intelligent discussion, if i wanna get trolled i'll go hang out on PT

i'm gonna borrow a friends n-box and report back. maybe i'll run it side-by-side the cmrs at RR if i can line up another set of 41s/4vs/21's

-out-

hardly.

[ballerusk]

I don't think I made this topic so people could measure each other's e-penises, or maybe I did? 

Anyway, what's the price range for MK4s and a Nbox? From some other topics I believe around $3000, but I could be wrong ofcourse

[jerryfreak]

well mk4s go from 900(beat)-1600(new)/pair, generally a good newer matched pair is ~$1200. not all are created equal, theyve been making the mk4 for close to 30 years.


 

I don't think I made this topic so people could measure each other's e-penises, or maybe I did? 

Anyway, what's the price range for MK4s and a Nbox? From some other topics I believe around $3000, but I could be wrong ofcourse

[edtyre]

The nbox is the best deal going for high quality sound in a small package.
Nicky has top notch service and fast turn around. I trust him, he's a taper 

I record in so many different situations,
so i need flexability......with the nbox i have it. 4's one night, 41's the next, maybe some M/S
no problem. Sounds super going into an r-44 as part of a 4 channel setup too.

[manitouman]

Not to sound discouraging because I've wanted a Nbox for a while but the battery thing kept me from ever pursuing it any further. Anyone want to clarify the battery longevity issue. Don't you need to change after like 4 hours of run time?

I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking.

[Craig T]

The NBox uses 2 pairs of 9v's - one in parallel, one in series (this is why an exernal power solution is complicated).  I'm using rechargable Powerex "9.6v" cells and swap the pairs after 2.5-3 hrs for a total of 5-6 hrs per set of 4 (basically a single 2-set show of standard length).  I haven't pushed the rechargables to their limit yet.  On a fresh set of 4 Duracells, I run 4-5 hrs then swap the pairs for another 4-5 hrs - yeilding 8-10 hours per set of 4.  I've been burned twice in 3+ years using this technique.  Once I pushed it well past 5 hrs before it shut down.  The other I think I forgot that I had already swapped and swapped again and it shut down in <2hrs.  The battery appettite is definitely the one negatives of the NBox, but it sounds great and is arguably the smallest Schoeps power/pre solution available.

Not to sound discouraging because I've wanted a Nbox for a while but the battery thing kept me from ever pursuing it any further. Anyone want to clarify the battery longevity issue. Don't you need to change after like 4 hours of run time?

I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking.

[jerryfreak]

i pm'd nick and havent heard back.

my friend larry said i can borrow his, but i dont know
a)if its the n-box or n-box+
b)if i can defeat the gain stage on it (he doesnt think so)

i asked nick to look up what model he has and also confirm if all, or just some, of the nboxes alow gain stage bypass (and if this is one of them)

hoping to find out soon, im doing a bunch of testing of new bit buckets, etc before Red rocks and it would be a good time for me.

[Craig T]

I believe there is currenlty only one nbox out there (owned by funkoff13) that has the variable gain option, all others have fixed ~+20.  Maybe Nick can chime in, but I don't think defeating the gain stage would be an easy task.  I'm sure it could be done, but it would certainly involve some digging through epoxy and soldering.

i pm'd nick and havent heard back.

my friend larry said i can borrow his, but i dont know
a)if its the n-box or n-box+
b)if i can defeat the gain stage on it (he doesnt think so)

i asked nick to look up what model he has and also confirm if all, or just some, of the nboxes alow gain stage bypass (and if this is one of them)

hoping to find out soon, im doing a bunch of testing of new bit buckets, etc before Red rocks and it would be a good time for me.

[jerryfreak]

bummer.

dont know how i can do a real comp of a mic vs a mic+pre combo i cant break.

hopefully nick gets back to me i also offered to let him borrow a pair of cmrs for testing so we'll crack this nut one way or another.

I believe there is currenlty only one nbox out there (owned by funkoff13) that has the variable gain option, all others have fixed ~+20.  Maybe Nick can chime in, but I don't think defeating the gain stage would be an easy task.  I'm sure it could be done, but it would certainly involve some digging through epoxy and soldering.

i pm'd nick and havent heard back.

my friend larry said i can borrow his, but i dont know
a)if its the n-box or n-box+
b)if i can defeat the gain stage on it (he doesnt think so)

i asked nick to look up what model he has and also confirm if all, or just some, of the nboxes alow gain stage bypass (and if this is one of them)

hoping to find out soon, im doing a bunch of testing of new bit buckets, etc before Red rocks and it would be a good time for me.

[ianstone]

jerry -
larry's is the nbox+

[schoepsnbox]

I believe there is currenlty only one nbox out there (owned by funkoff13) that has the variable gain option, all others have fixed ~+20.  Maybe Nick can chime in, but I don't think defeating the gain stage would be an easy task.  I'm sure it could be done, but it would certainly involve some digging through epoxy and soldering.

i pm'd nick and havent heard back.

my friend larry said i can borrow his, but i dont know
a)if its the n-box or n-box+
b)if i can defeat the gain stage on it (he doesnt think so)

i asked nick to look up what model he has and also confirm if all, or just some, of the nboxes alow gain stage bypass (and if this is one of them)

hoping to find out soon, im doing a bunch of testing of new bit buckets, etc before Red rocks and it would be a good time for me.

This is correct funkoff13 is the only Nbox type-s out there...His box in addition to having gain pots has dip switches inside to bypass the internal pre and feed an unbalanced mic line signal and runs on 2 9volts for 400 hours ...To feed external pre's or run mic in on any recorder...Still supplies the capsules with 60volts   It's a unique unit just like doubledee himself.  Perhaps we can line something up for a comp?

[jerryfreak]

considering that guys been nothing but an dick to me for no reason id rather not deal with it.

any other gear you have around that we can comp with? can you build a simple fixed gain stage thats the equivalent of whats in the nbox for me to put behind a cmr battery box?

[ballerusk]

Sorry to bump this, but I've started researching more and I'm uncertain whether to choose MK4 or MK41. I've downloaded "Hungry Heart" by Springsteen live in Philadelphia Oct 20, 2009 which has both a MK4 (taped by Nicky C) and a MK41 source (taped by Tapehead2) and to me the MK4 sounds more upfront and the instruments less "meshed" together compared to the MK41-source, whereas MK4 sounds more prone for audience noise. Also the recording positions are different, centre floor vs section 211 so I know that's a important factor to consider.

Apart from using my own ears, what are your own experiences? Why did you choose MK4 over the MK41, or vice-versa?