Topic: busted recording at a show--what should I do?

[bluntforcetrauma]

hello, I was caught taping a show tonight, they escorted me to the back and took my name and address, picture of me,picture of my rig, and said I am never to come back to the LA forum again. oh yeah they erased my flashcard.

1. has anyone ever gotten caught taping?

2. I am a fan club member of this particluar band should I risk taping again at another venue?

3.  Help?

4. Deos this mean that I am a marked man for this particular band?

5. Do you think the venue caught me?  or was it the bnad crew?  The people just told me that  i was not to return to the LA forum ever again

6.  Now i have many more shows to go for this tour with this particular band--I am a fan club member and someone took down my name--do you think i am a marked man at the next say 6-7 gigs which are in different cities?

thanks for all your help

[Josephine]

How'd they catch you?
+t for your troubles.

[OFOTD]

I thought Pearl Jam allowed recording?

[bluntforcetrauma]

i dont know, maybe because i was standing too still and not moveing around--maybe i stuck out.  I got caught about 1 hour into the show.  I was not looking at my rig or anything i was just watching the show, but I made eye contact with this one dude and then he turned away and looked back again and i was still looking at him, and he was woriking for LA forum or pearl jam--i dont know and i guess it was the way that i got caught staring at the dude.

help

is my taping life over

[bluntforcetrauma]

no external mics or flashcards--

just tape recorders allowed

is my pearl jam taping days over?

help

[Aaron41]

Situations like this always freak me out. I have never had anything this extreme happen but I wonder how I would react in that situation. I don't see why they would ever need your name and address.

I also find it hard to believe the LA Forum wouldn't gladly take your $60 next time.

[bluntforcetrauma]

yeah they said LA forum people--I am never to be able to step on the grounds again.

I asked them if i could see a show like in 3 months--they said I AM BANNED FROM THE LA FORUM

now do you think pearl jam management knows?

since they took my name and address, and photos

will that be passed along to pearl jam people, because i am a fan club member and they jsut have to see that i get my tickets thru them and they could jsut find where i sit every show

I AM FREAKIN OUT

I AM SITTING HERE IN LA--A LONG WAY FROM HOME--I AM FROM FLORIDA

AND I HAVE 7 MORE PEARL JAM SHOWS TO ATTEND

[poorlyconditioned]

yeah they said LA forum people--I am never to be able to step on the grounds again.

I asked them if i could see a show like in 3 months--they said I AM BANNED FROM THE LA FORUM

now do you think pearl jam management knows?

since they took my name and address, and photos

will that be passed along to pearl jam people, because i am a fan club member and they jsut have to see that i get my tickets thru them and they could jsut find where i sit every show

I AM FREAKIN OUT

I AM SITTING HERE IN LA--A LONG WAY FROM HOME--I AM FROM FLORIDA

AND I HAVE 7 MORE PEARL JAM SHOWS TO ATTEND

Attend the next show without recording.  See if anyone is watching/checking you.

  Richard

[LEDZEPZOSO]

yeah they said LA forum people--I am never to be able to step on the grounds again.

I asked them if i could see a show like in 3 months--they said I AM BANNED FROM THE LA FORUM

now do you think pearl jam management knows?

since they took my name and address, and photos

will that be passed along to pearl jam people, because i am a fan club member and they jsut have to see that i get my tickets thru them and they could jsut find where i sit every show

I AM FREAKIN OUT

I AM SITTING HERE IN LA--A LONG WAY FROM HOME--I AM FROM FLORIDA

AND I HAVE 7 MORE PEARL JAM SHOWS TO ATTEND

I think the photo and name is more of a scare tatic. Anywhere that Pearl Jam is playing has over 10,000 people in the crowd, I highly doubt if they even got your photo they will be walking the floor to find you. To play it safe, since you have Fan Club tickets and your name find someone to switch seats with you.
 For what it is worth I have been caught twice at the Hard Rock (Jul '04 and July '05). Even with the venue being so small I have taped many shows since. Both times I got caught I think I was narked on by someone.

[bmr]

yeah they said LA forum people--I am never to be able to step on the grounds again.

I asked them if i could see a show like in 3 months--they said I AM BANNED FROM THE LA FORUM

now do you think pearl jam management knows?

since they took my name and address, and photos

will that be passed along to pearl jam people, because i am a fan club member and they jsut have to see that i get my tickets thru them and they could jsut find where i sit every show

I AM FREAKIN OUT

I AM SITTING HERE IN LA--A LONG WAY FROM HOME--I AM FROM FLORIDA

AND I HAVE 7 MORE PEARL JAM SHOWS TO ATTEND

You're probably just fine. Pearl Jam's people don't go around searching the crowd for tapers, I know this as fact. Their crew's rather small, and only in extreme circumstances will they roam outside the soundboard square or in front of the rail/sidestage area. Furthermore, if they said you're banned from the forum (which is kinda funny since they have about, what, 5 shows a year there?), that means they're forum people, not PJ's people. Pearl Jam's people wouldn't give a crap, and if by some crazy chance it were them, and they were actually less than cordial and relaxed, they'd have mentioned something to you along the lines of your fan club membership or looking out for you in future shows on the tour, etc.

Don't let some security guard doing his job at the Forum in LA ruin what you like doing elsewhere in the country.

[Josephine]

yeah they said LA forum people--I am never to be able to step on the grounds again.

I asked them if i could see a show like in 3 months--they said I AM BANNED FROM THE LA FORUM

now do you think pearl jam management knows?

since they took my name and address, and photos

will that be passed along to pearl jam people, because i am a fan club member and they jsut have to see that i get my tickets thru them and they could jsut find where i sit every show

I AM FREAKIN OUT

I AM SITTING HERE IN LA--A LONG WAY FROM HOME--I AM FROM FLORIDA

AND I HAVE 7 MORE PEARL JAM SHOWS TO ATTEND

Attend the next show without recording.  See if anyone is watching/checking you.

  Richard

I was going to suggest the same thing.  Sounds like your "problem" was with Forum security and not the band's.  Band security would never say anything about you being banned from the Forum.  I'd be kind of surprised to hear that venue and band security "compared notes," so you should be fine.  I would go to the next show without taping equipment, however.

As for visiting the Forum again in three months . . . I'm sure they have far bigger security worries than you.  What they say and what they enforce are two different things.

Don't worry too much about this.  Just write it off as a lesson learned . . . and enjoy your upcoming shows.

[china_rider]

yeah they said LA forum people--I am never to be able to step on the grounds again.

I asked them if i could see a show like in 3 months--they said I AM BANNED FROM THE LA FORUM

now do you think pearl jam management knows?

since they took my name and address, and photos

will that be passed along to pearl jam people, because i am a fan club member and they jsut have to see that i get my tickets thru them and they could jsut find where i sit every show

I AM FREAKIN OUT

I AM SITTING HERE IN LA--A LONG WAY FROM HOME--I AM FROM FLORIDA

AND I HAVE 7 MORE PEARL JAM SHOWS TO ATTEND

Well... Just my .02....

But you are only banned from the LA Forum.  Not the other venues.  I seriously doubt the Forum is going to keep your picture on a wall and I'd guess you would be safe to go back to any show you want.  If nothing else I'm sure it is scare tactics.  I'd also guess that even if they took picutres and passed them arround the security at the other venues they will not recognize you.  You are one of thousands going in.  Even if they do, just hide the EQ or have another fan bring it in for you.  The worst they can do is turn you away at the door.  It's not like you are going to goto jail or anything.  If they turn you away just put the EQ back in the car and come back in through another exit.

PS: I thought PJ was OK with taping.  Has this changed?  If not it is probably a misinformed venue and you will be OK at your next shows.

[bluntforcetrauma]

one dude did ask me if I was a pearl jam fan club member --and i said yes.

because he said you can download the boots from the internet since pearl jam sells each show online.  I started to go into why i taped, but that went no where, i love to tape shows i love to share them with this community

i will be attending the Santa Barbara show next--but some suggest to go without gear.

also as some mentioned i do have someone  with me to get stuff into the venue and that person was not asked there name, address or anything, they just took down my info

[Aaron41]

one dude did ask me if I was a pearl jam fan club member --and i said yes.

because he said you can download the boots from the internet since pearl jam sells each show online.  I started to go into why i taped, but that went no where, i love to tape shows i love to share them with this community

i will be attending the Santa Barbara show next--but some suggest to go without gear.

also as some mentioned i do have someone  with me to get stuff into the venue and that person was not asked there name, address or anything, they just took down my info

Maybe don't mention that there is a "community". Google searches can find anything.

Also... it is ok to not tell the truth sometimes. I know you were no doubt nervous and that nerves can make the truth comes out but you didn't have to say you were a member of the fan club. Hell, you didn't have to answer any of their questions, I don't think. Just repeat "Am I free to leave the building?"

[shaggy]

Don't sweat the photo or the name and address thing.  Scare tactics.  All about power tripping.  The only thing that sucks is they have an idea what a R1 and the DPA4061 look like.  You were doing your stealthy best (and with gear that is really hard to see), I am suprised to see they popped you, unless you were trying to read levels or fiddling with something.  Just being still, is not enough....that means they were looking at you for while....something drew them to you before they noticed you having a very stiff neck.

Can you tell us exactly what you were doing?  Where you were standing, if there were lights on you, the type of hat you were wearing, all little details would help the next set of people avoid getting popped...including yourself.

And always remember, they cannot take your gear away...including your flash card.  I would, in the future...keep a shitty 8MB card to give to them when you do the slight of hand popping your real card out.  Give them that. and walk away with a recording....