Topic: 4061 vs 4060

[phishy12]

does anybody know how you can tell just by looking, the difference in a 4060 vs a 4061?? i have bought 2 off of ebay, both claiming to be 4061's, but the mic ends look different.

[BC]

I don't know about by just looking, but try hooking them up. The 4060 is more sensitive than the 4061.

[phishy12]

enough so, that it would be a noticable difference??

[pfife]

+7dbs, I believe.

[shaggy]

if the ends haven't been cut off too extremely for whatever ends are on them now...

white tape serial - 4060
red tape serial - 4061

and congrats on your CMC65 stereo pair....I wished I'd seen them first!

[phishy12]

well that answers it then, because they both have red tape. it's just on one of them the mesh material that covers the mic element is larger than the other one??


thanks shaggy!!
i thought i got a great deal on the cmc65 set

[olyrc]

well that answers it then, because they both have red tape. it's just on one of them the mesh material that covers the mic element is larger than the other one??


thanks shaggy!!
i thought i got a great deal on the cmc65 set

They just have different boost grids on them then.  The bigger one is the soft boost, the smaller one is the high boost grid.  Pretty sure you'd want soft boost grids on both for our purposes.

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

So, the 4061's would be better for louder situations? Is that what is meant by "less sensitive"?

I hoping on picking up a pair of these and a MMA6000 to go with my MT as a stealth rig.

[johnw]

does anybody know how you can tell just by looking, the difference in a 4060 vs a 4061?? i have bought 2 off of ebay, both claiming to be 4061's, but the mic ends look different.

I have to ask - how many mics do you own? I've never seen you sell anything, but you always win auctions on high end mics. What do you do with them all? I'd love to see pictures of your collection - mic porn 

[BC]

So, the 4061's would be better for louder situations? Is that what is meant by "less sensitive"?

I hoping on picking up a pair of these and a MMA6000 to go with my MT as a stealth rig.

4060's handle 134 dB SPL, I don't think you will ever see anything this loud at a concert. I would personally go with these over the 4061's due to their higher sensitivity.

[Evil Taper]

No matter what mics you choose you're still going to have to get your levels set properly to get max resolution.  Is there an audible difference in initial mic volume vs gain volume on a recorder?  I brickwalled my 4061>batt box>R1 rig even....so careful.

[sml42]

4060's handle 134 dB SPL, I don't think you will ever see anything this loud at a concert. I would personally go with these over the 4061's due to their higher sensitivity.

Yes, you can see SPLs this loud. I've had it happen a couple times. It was, of course, the bass that killed the recordings... even wearing earplugs it was physically uncomfortable. In all cases I was either FOH or stack taping, I would probably have had better results had I chosen / been able to tape from FOB. But yeah, you can see SPLs this loud...

Edit to add: I run 4060s. When I bought them I was unsure whether to go 4060 or 4061. Now that I've played with them for quite some time, now that I have a feel for what the mics are capable of... if I had to choose again I would take the 4060s.

best regards,
stephen

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Another perspective.. For a noisy pre like the microtrack, the 4060 would be a better choice for many folks.

[BuddyGoodness]

I just got a pair with the larger screen on one.  is having a soft boost and a high boost good when I plan on taping rock and metal shows? not like death metal, but heavy music.  I would really like to tape tool.

[macdaddy]

i run the 4060s, and have for quite some time. the more sensitive mics are the batter call, imo. i would do it again if i needed to...