Topic: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V

[dank]

Ok, I know I could search and probably find a million debates on this, but hoping someone can give me the broad strokes on a buying decision.

I currently run DPA 4021s and will continue to use these as my primary pair, but find myself recording in a less-than-ideal room (not bad, just not great) more often than not lately and want to see if hypers can help me out.  I would likely still run the 4021s alongside the schoeps, because it's just hitting another button.

I've elected to look at Schoeps mics because I know they perform well and who knows, if the 4021s bite the dust, MK4's may be the replacement...

These will operate on a stand or in a hat, depending.

[noahbickart]

I prefer the mk41v for two reasons:

1) They are a little less directional, that is, the patterns is a little wider in the low end.

2) They are much easier to run, both horizontally in a hat, and vertically on a bar.

They sound fantastic, BTW.

[fobstl]

41V if you are going to sometimes run a hat. I run 41s with DPA 4021s and really like the combo. I hope to trade up to the 41Vs at some point to easier run in a hat. I had 4Vs and they were awesome for the hat, unfortunately had to unload them.

[MakersMarc]

I prefer the mk41v for two reasons:

1) They are a little less directional, that is, the patterns is a little wider in the low end.

2) They are much easier to run, both horizontally in a hat, and vertically on a bar.

They sound fantastic, BTW.

Ditto all that.

I unloaded my 41s for 41vs for distance stea€6h work, and the hat form factor and because I just like the vertical sound a little better. I notice head movement less, and they're smoother to my ears.

[dank]

if this should go in a PM, that's cool - but i've often heard the V's are easier to run in a hat, but I'm having trouble picturing why?

once I get that resolved, and i'm sure I will, probably pull the trigger on a set this weekend
Thanks

[brad.bartels]

I see all the time here folks saying the 4Vs and 41Vs are much easier to run in a hat. I've always run 4s and 41s and I can't picture the advantage of the Vs in a hat either. If anyone can explain it (PM is fine), I would appreciate it as well. I doubt I'd change now since I have everything but I'd like to understand the advantage that the Vs offer.

[MakersMarc]

PM me your emails, I took pics for someone last week, I'll send them to whoever wants them.

[H₂O]

Personally I prefer the non-V caps

[F.O.Bean]

Personally I prefer the non-V caps

I agree with H20 about this! The NON-Vertical caps sound more natural to me, as well as not having the HF Bump that the 4V has. I just like the small, front address caps, which have a flat response in the mk4 & mk41 and I have no reason to upgrade to the V's, to my ears. I've always thought that the 41V sounded a little drier and has a TAD less lowend, even though the actual capsule is bigger in the V series. It's really just a matter of preference in the end. You'll be happy with ANY Schoeps mics that you buy, so you can't go wrong either way They both sound fantastic! I'd listen to some tapes and see which you prefer. If you do a lot of hat work, the V-Series is definitely appealing! MUCH easier to run in a hat IMO! I only open tape these days, so I have no reason to switch things up personally right now!

[daspyknows]

I see all the time here folks saying the 4Vs and 41Vs are much easier to run in a hat. I've always run 4s and 41s and I can't picture the advantage of the Vs in a hat either. If anyone can explain it (PM is fine), I would appreciate it as well. I doubt I'd change now since I have everything but I'd like to understand the advantage that the Vs offer.

+1

It depends on the hat.  The way I wear mine the V's won't work as well.

[jbell]

Personally I prefer the non-V caps

[Wiggler]

I too prefer the standard caps as I find the V's to be a little too bright for my taste.

[guitard]

Reviving an old thread; as it seems to be the most relevant for this.

I just got a brand spanking new matched pair of MK41Vs; and plan to use them for the first time tomorrow night.  I've been taping with MK41s for the last few years; 99% in a kangaroo with the mics up in front facing forward.

From what I gather, with the Vs, I should have them sit horizontally with the red dot facing the sound source?  So basically, do what I've been doing, except with the mics turned 90 degrees?

[DavidPuddy]

Reviving an old thread; as it seems to be the most relevant for this.

I just got a brand spanking new matched pair of MK41Vs; and plan to use them for the first time tomorrow night.  I've been taping with MK41s for the last few years; 99% in a kangaroo with the mics up in front facing forward.

From what I gather, with the Vs, I should have them sit horizontally with the red dot facing the sound source?  So basically, do what I've been doing, except with the mics turned 90 degrees?

From my understanding, some people use a din bar and mount the mics backwards with red dots facing forward.

Scott sells a kangol mount which I am probably going to buy next time they offer a discount code: https://www.shapeways.com/product/HUCSCEPET/dina-schoeps-mk41v-nbobs-hat-mount?optionId=64027722

[guitard]

Scott sells a kangol mount

If the right side of the mount (as viewed in this image) is facing forward, it looks like the red dots would be facing away from the sound source.  What am I missing?