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Title: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on July 25, 2014, 10:01:43 AM
Hey folks, looking for some advice.

I've been asked to record/archive an upcoming music festival (two weeks away) and they've since asked if I could also stream the audio if they provided an uplink. I'm still trying to find out details on the uplink but I assume it's some sort of point of presence scenario.

I've done some searching around here and also looking at the offerings from Mixlr, livestream and Ustream. I'm still at a loss as to which of these packages might work best for something like this.

I'm really just looking for a free or low cost way to stream 10-12 hours of music that day. Equipment wise I'll be running my Tascam DR-60D recorder and I assume I'll run the line out from that into the mic-in jack on my HP Pavilion dm1z Notebook PC running broadcasting software from the list above. Then of course connecting to whatever link it is they provide.

Seems real simple but I know better. Any thoughts from you all are much appreciated. I'm especially interested in this from the software perspective.
Thanks!



Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: ScoobieKW on July 25, 2014, 01:40:51 PM
Flash Media Live Encoder should work for you.

Will work with onboard audio inputs or any interface with WDM driver support. (not ASIO)

Free

I've used it to stream audio only through UStream. Most streaming companies will generate a FMLE config file with you to make connection simple.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: Chuck on July 25, 2014, 03:10:25 PM
I went through this early this year myself. I settled on using Audacity. I found it easy to set-up and it does a great job of capturing streaming audio.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: ScoobieKW on July 25, 2014, 05:16:40 PM
I went through this early this year myself. I settled on using Audacity. I found it easy to set-up and it does a great job of capturing streaming audio.

Chuck, Billydee is doing the opposite, he's looking for a solution to stream audio out of his recorder to the world.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on July 25, 2014, 05:20:58 PM
I went through this early this year myself. I settled on using Audacity. I found it easy to set-up and it does a great job of capturing streaming audio.

Chuck, Billydee is doing the opposite, he's looking for a solution to stream audio out of his recorder to the world.
Yes, that's it exactly ScoobieKW. But Chuck's reply makes me wonder if I need to also have Audacity running on my laptop prior to sending it out, or will the three software/services I mentioned perform that function already.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: ScoobieKW on July 25, 2014, 05:28:29 PM
With Flash Media Live Encoder you don't need another program running, it sees any input that Windows Device Manger can work with. (your 1/8" input, a Roland UA-5, etc...)

It will also do a record of the stream at the same time. I'd still run your Tascam record, better quality.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: Chuck on July 25, 2014, 06:43:16 PM
 :-[ Yeah, after I posted, I realized that his application was not the same as mine.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on July 28, 2014, 04:32:31 PM
So does anyone have a preference between the three streaming services I asked about?

1- Ustream
2- Mixlr
3- livestream

Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: rastasean on July 31, 2014, 01:14:57 AM
Hi Billydee,
So does anyone have a preference between the three streaming services I asked about?

1- Ustream
2- Mixlr
3- livestream


We I would go with one that's for audio only so probably mixlr. where are you planning on sending the link for people to listen in?
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on July 31, 2014, 09:54:45 AM

We I would go with one that's for audio only so probably mixlr. where are you planning on sending the link for people to listen in?
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After looking closely again at all three services, Mixlr is truly audio only but their free service only allows for one hour of broadcasting. Whereas Ustream seems to be unlimited for the 30 day trial period. At this point I'm going to focus on that one and test it out this weekend somehow.

I will post a link here if and when this looks to be a go. The fest I'm hoping to stream is on Sat August 9th in South Fork Colorado ( Rhythms on the Rio)http://rhythmsontherio.com/

Still trying to touch base with the internet provider there who has promised a dedicated link at the site and hoping to chat with someone that's actually done what I'm trying to do to get some tips.

Thanks all for your help so far.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: ScoobieKW on July 31, 2014, 10:24:51 AM
Hi Billydee,
So does anyone have a preference between the three streaming services I asked about?

1- Ustream
2- Mixlr
3- livestream

Flash Media Live Encoder will do an audio only stream with USTREAM, no experience with the other services.


We I would go with one that's for audio only so probably mixlr. where are you planning on sending the link for people to listen in?
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: vanark on July 31, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
I've used both Ustream and Mixlr.  I prefer Ustream, using the Flash Media Live Encoder, as it allows me to easily adjust the bitrate to accommodate what bandwidth I may have available, allowing me to stream in less than ideal situations (bandwidth-wise).  I haven't used Mixlr in about a year, so perhaps they have some new features, but at the time, there was no way to adjust the bitrate.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: vegeta_ban on July 31, 2014, 11:22:14 AM
I've been using ustream since 09 I believe and with FMLE since 2010. It is very simple, didn't much like live stream or mixlr in comparison. I've been tempted to build my own flash media server to cut out the middle man, but don't have the time or resources.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: rastasean on July 31, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
billydee,

mixlr is only $5 a month for three hour increments.

Regards,
rastasean
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on August 01, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
So I did a little test today. Ran a previous recording thru the line out of the DR-60D to the mic input on my laptop (stereo mini to stereo mini). Ran Ustream via it's web front end, not the Producer software although I did download that. Then started up the FMLE software and it actually worked!  :o

Had a couple folks test it out on the other side of the country and it sounded ok to them.

For those that have done this with FMLE and Ustream, did you use the Producer software or just log in to their website front end?
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: vanark on August 01, 2014, 08:34:35 PM
I don't log into Ustream at all (except in advance to set up the name/location of the broadcast).  I download the XML file for the channel and load it in FMLE directly.  Hit start in FMLE and it starts broadcasting on the channel.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on August 04, 2014, 12:38:24 PM
I don't log into Ustream at all (except in advance to set up the name/location of the broadcast).  I download the XML file for the channel and load it in FMLE directly.  Hit start in FMLE and it starts broadcasting on the channel.
After I saw this post I tried to figure out how to do it this way but just could not. Is there a downside to what I tried earlier, running both the Ustream web page for my channel and FMLE in the background? I am also confused about where best to control levels but that'll have to work itself out in real life next Saturday.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: vanark on August 04, 2014, 12:53:04 PM
I don't log into Ustream at all (except in advance to set up the name/location of the broadcast).  I download the XML file for the channel and load it in FMLE directly.  Hit start in FMLE and it starts broadcasting on the channel.
After I saw this post I tried to figure out how to do it this way but just could not. Is there a downside to what I tried earlier, running both the Ustream web page for my channel and FMLE in the background? I am also confused about where best to control levels but that'll have to work itself out in real life next Saturday.

No idea.  I've never run it that way.  I'll PM you some instructions on running it the way I do (and many others, too.)
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on August 04, 2014, 12:55:12 PM

After I saw this post I tried to figure out how to do it this way but just could not. Is there a downside to what I tried earlier, running both the Ustream web page for my channel and FMLE in the background? I am also confused about where best to control levels but that'll have to work itself out in real life next Saturday.
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No idea.  I've never run it that way.  I'll PM you some instructions on running it the way I do (and many others, too.)
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Awesome, thanks much!  :)
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on August 08, 2014, 11:34:07 AM
I seem to have figured this thing out thanks all of you and especially vanark. If you want to give a listen tomorrow you can catch the stream here-
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-billydee-live-in-the-four-corner-music-blast

Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: vanark on August 08, 2014, 12:09:45 PM
 :cheers: :coolguy:
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: billydee on August 22, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
FYI, I'm re-streaming the Grant Farm and Keller Williams sets from August 9th right now-
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-billydee-live-in-the-four-corner-music-blast
Title: Re: Which audio streaming software/service is the least hassle?
Post by: larrysellers on August 22, 2014, 10:04:31 PM
Sounds good Bill.