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Title: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on April 05, 2006, 10:01:57 AM
Right now:  ADK A51S TLs (matched) > DogStars > WMod+ UA5 > JB3 (16/48)

Thinking about:  ADK A51S TLs (matched) > DogStars > ACM 660 (16/48)


- Also thinking about those stealth AKGs that were up on Yard Sale, or another small mic - the TLs are BIG...
- Going from UA5>JB3 to ACM 660 gives me no benefits other than a reduction in size...
- I'm thinking one day I'd like to get the 671, so having the 24/96 UA5 to put in front of it might be nice...
- Maybe Marantz will put out a "661", or a 660 that is 24/96 next year and Oade will mod it...


Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions???

Anyone have any SD mic recommendations for use with the WMod+ UA5??? 

Spring is in the air an the upgrade itch is getting to me... 

Thanks,

Terry

Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: Brian on April 05, 2006, 10:15:43 AM
my suggestion would be to upgrade the recorder to a 24bit capable device if you can swing it. 
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: beanstalk on April 05, 2006, 11:30:41 AM
Anyone have any SD mic recommendations for use with the WMod+ UA5??? 

Peluso makes a great SD the CEMC6. Appox. $500-$600 for stereo set plus lots of caps. The word is that actives coming soon.
http://www.pelusomicrophonelab.com/
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: oniontaper on April 05, 2006, 11:35:37 AM

Anyone have any SD mic recommendations for use with the WMod+ UA5??? 




moded AKG 460 or the 480's are my fav match up w/ a w-mod

Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: spyder9 on April 05, 2006, 12:13:13 PM
Terry,

I'd keep the  WMod+ UA5 > JB3 for Festies.

Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: bluegrass_brad on April 05, 2006, 12:17:36 PM
AKG 460 or 480.  Cant beat the price and you still retain the flexibility of interchangable caps
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 05, 2006, 12:17:44 PM
my suggestion would be to upgrade the recorder to a 24bit capable device if you can swing it.

What he said.

Anyone have any SD mic recommendations for use with the WMod+ UA5???

Budget?
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on April 05, 2006, 01:00:05 PM
my suggestion would be to upgrade the recorder to a 24bit capable device if you can swing it.

What he said.

Anyone have any SD mic recommendations for use with the WMod+ UA5???

Budget?

Yeah, that's why I'm leaning toward keeping what I got and going 24 with the UA5 later...

And as for mic budget, I'm thinking about $750 or so.  I'd sell my ADKs (~$600) and could probably throw in a couple extra bills...

I'll look into the Peluso mics.  I've seen several folks on here using them - I'll look around Archive for some sources...

And yeah, I'd love to do 480s - I'm going to be borrowing TFrench's sooner or later to try them out...

Thanks for the advice, keep it coming!

Terry

Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: stirinthesauce on April 05, 2006, 01:18:06 PM
As for Peluso>w-mod combo, like this so much I picked up one.  Off at oade getting the plus mod. Great combo, love these mics, so versatile with all the cap options, actives and additional cap offerings coming real soon.  I can send you a comp I did for a PGroove show last month.  Ran bm2p+mod 1st set and w-mod 2nd set.  Just pm me your addy.  Tony was running adk's into a bm2p+mod ua-5 and just recently switched to Peluso's.  I bet he could give you some insight on the differences he hears, pros and cons of both mics.  Good luck on your upgrade quest!  ;D
-Jon
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: beanstalk on April 05, 2006, 03:24:07 PM
As for Peluso>w-mod combo, like this so much I picked up one.  Off at oade getting the plus mod. Great combo, love these mics, so versatile with all the cap options, actives and additional cap offerings coming real soon.  I can send you a comp I did for a PGroove show last month.  Ran bm2p+mod 1st set and w-mod 2nd set.  Just pm me your addy.  Tony was running adk's into a bm2p+mod ua-5 and just recently switched to Peluso's.  I bet he could give you some insight on the differences he hears, pros and cons of both mics.  Good luck on your upgrade quest!  ;D
-Jon
Couldn't have said it better myself..
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 05, 2006, 03:46:10 PM
The Peluso's already mentioned are a good option.  In the "stretching" realm:

480s/460s (already mentioned)
Neumann KM184s
Earthworks SR-77 (if you can find 'em)
MBHO 440s
MG M300s (my pick of the bunch)

Or...maybe hang onto the TLs and throw ~$200 at a used pair of Sound Projects C4s to see if you dig the SD sound.
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: anodyne33 on April 06, 2006, 05:21:42 PM
If you ditch the TLs I'll rat you out on the ADK board ;)

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but my next mic set will definitely be AKG Bluelines! I'm not sold on the difference between the 300s and 400s.  :scared:

Check this show out the Swampy pulled of my old band and tell me that you'd ever guess that they were 391s! ;D
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=27572
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: Bdifr78 on April 09, 2006, 03:05:14 PM

Neumann KM184s
MG M300s (my pick of the bunch)


I second these recomendations.  Although you will miss the flexibility of multi-pattern.

Brian, in your opinion what do you think the major differences are between the 184s and m300s?  To me both have a sweet warm, smooth sound, but from the few samples I have heard I feel the m300s lack some of the upper end detail that the neumanns bring.  I would love to know what you think, fore I have listend to only a few m300 samples.
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: neumannkid on April 09, 2006, 07:33:33 PM
Keep the ADK's and buy some C4's then you will have a set of LD's(multi pattern) and SD's(with two sets of caps). Pretty nice setup that can cover all the bases, IMHO.
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: nickgregory on April 09, 2006, 07:37:07 PM

Neumann KM184s
MG M300s (my pick of the bunch)


I second these recomendations.  Although you will miss the flexibility of multi-pattern.

Brian, in your opinion what do you think the major differences are between the 184s and m300s?  To me both have a sweet warm, smooth sound, but from the few samples I have heard I feel the m300s lack some of the upper end detail that the neumanns bring.  I would love to know what you think, fore I have listend to only a few m300 samples.


the M300s to me have a significant amount more detail in the mid range than the neumanns, who imo get a little non descrpt there and in the lower end...the MGs share the same characteristic at the low end to my ears...
Title: Re: Thinking about a new rig...
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on April 09, 2006, 08:49:09 PM
Nick, I really gotta talk to you about taping at the Pour House, I can't pull a good tape there to save my life... 

And MGs, yeah. I'd love to get a pair of those...  I'm not sure about C4s though - have they gotten the hyper cap on those things going yet??? 

And actually, this afternoon, we went and saw Classical Mystery Tour with the NC Symphony Orch. (pretty good, lots of fun) and now I want stealth mics...  can someone give me directions, maybe AT8xx mics???  I'd run them into my JB3 methinks...

Thanks, you guys rule - +Ts and beers all around!

Terry