Topic: DAT recorder ?

[thomasdrv]

I wanna buy me a DAT recorder again since my old Casio DA 1 broke down.
I got a Zoom H4n, but thisone sounds bad compared to the Casio.
I know many people will say DAT is old and out
I ask anyway
Which one should i buy ?
Thomas

[H₂O]

portable or component?  If portable how small?

Portable:
 - HHb Portadat (large)
 - Fostex PD-4 (large)
 - Sony M1 or D100 (small)

Component:
 - Sony PCM-2600/2800
 - Sony PCM-R500/R700

[Teen Age Riot]

If you don't like them Zoom, don't let that fool you into thinking that all modern decks are like that. (They aren't.)

[H₂O]

If you want a replacement - just buy a Sony PCM-M10

[jbell]

If you want a replacement - just buy a Sony PCM-M10

[Ozpeter]

Wow, I used to have a Casio like that - I'd completely forgotten about it.  I wonder what happened to it?!  Note that it's only a 15 bit machine so it's hard to understand why the OP prefers the sound compared to a modern solid state 24 bit-capable recorder, but I guess it's a personal thing.

[thomasdrv]

http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/zoom/h4n.htm

[jbell]

^^  That is the problem the Zoom recorders suck!! Grab a M10, which is a better move than going back to DAT. 

[thomasdrv]

Thanks H2o

[Belexes]

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

[Myco]

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders. 

[WiFiJeff]

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders. 

I dunno about that.  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=153859.0

Jeff

[thomasdrv]

How good is the Sony 2000 ES DAT ?

[fmaderjr]

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders. 

For someone who feels that way, I would suggest getting a modern recorder with an Oade or Busman warm mod (or using a preamp that produces a warmer sound).

I had so much trouble with my Sony D100 that I stopped using it in favor of my Sharp Mini-Disc until I got a modern digital recorder. I only recorded a handful of times a year and my D100 needed to go to Pro Digital every 2 years or so for $200 worth of repairs to get rid of drop outs. Paul said there are little plastic gears that can break even when the machine is not being used much.

Now you can buy a great recorder for $200 that hardly ever needs repairs. Plus it's great to be able to quickly upload your recordings to your computer & not to have to keep DAT tapes in stock.

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

IMO, Zoom blows!

[H₂O]

How good is the Sony 2000 ES DAT ?

I am sure it is a good DAT but IMO not worth $400-1000 people want to pay for it.  From what I have read it is the first deck sony made with SBM.

There are many more modern Sony decks that are probably just as good sound wise, are built as well or better, and much less complex in design (easier to fix).  Such as the ones I mentioned above (Sony PCM 2600/2800, PCM R500/R700, and additionally DTC-A8/A9).  All these decks can be found in the $75-150 range except the R700.

A better series of Sony DATs are the PCM 70xx series although I would only suggest buying the PCM-7040 (if 32Khz is not important) or PCM-7010.

[runonce]

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders. 

For someone who feels that way, I would suggest getting a modern recorder with an Oade or Busman warm mod (or using a preamp that produces a warmer sound).

I had so much trouble with my Sony D100 that I stopped using it in favor of my Sharp Mini-Disc until I got a modern digital recorder. I only recorded a handful of times a year and my D100 needed to go to Pro Digital every 2 years or so for $200 worth of repairs to get rid of drop outs. Paul said there are little plastic gears that can break even when the machine is not being used much.

Now you can buy a great recorder for $200 that hardly ever needs repairs. Plus it's great to be able to quickly upload your recordings to your computer & not to have to keep DAT tapes in stock.

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

IMO, Zoom blows!

I took the "warmer" remark as sarcasm...

[datbrad]

Actually, the warmer DAT thing stems from the fact that portable DAT recorders used more FETs in their analog input stages, as well as not having active circuits at the inputs using bipolar chips (these were not as quiet as today's chips). Warm mods typically replace the bipolar chips with FETs, which gives modern recorders a sound closer to what tapers that used DAT recorders were used to.

[leehookem]

[sparkey]

Buddy of mine has both a low hours Sony D-8 and a low hours Tascam DA-20mk2 that he was trying to sell......

[Myco]

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders. 

For someone who feels that way, I would suggest getting a modern recorder with an Oade or Busman warm mod (or using a preamp that produces a warmer sound).

I had so much trouble with my Sony D100 that I stopped using it in favor of my Sharp Mini-Disc until I got a modern digital recorder. I only recorded a handful of times a year and my D100 needed to go to Pro Digital every 2 years or so for $200 worth of repairs to get rid of drop outs. Paul said there are little plastic gears that can break even when the machine is not being used much.

Now you can buy a great recorder for $200 that hardly ever needs repairs. Plus it's great to be able to quickly upload your recordings to your computer & not to have to keep DAT tapes in stock.

Zoom driving people back to DAT. 

IMO, Zoom blows!

I took the "warmer" remark as sarcasm...

 

[thomasdrv]

Is 1000 hours runtime much for a Sony PCM 7040 ?
Thomas

[LeftoverSammy]

I've got a DA-P1 in really good shape I'm looking to unload. Has AC power supply, strap and DC power chord.
PM if interested.......needs a good home.

[H₂O]

Is 1000 hours runtime much for a Sony PCM 7040 ?
Thomas

No - but I was told by Paul at pro-digital the drum counter will flag an error when it reaches 1000 hours or so (maybe higher as 1000 seems low to me) and the drum counter has four digits so if 1000 would flag an error I would think you would only need 3 digits

You can re-set the counter using either dip switches on the drive or 7040 motherboard (I don't know which dip switch it is)

[yltfan]

If you really want a DAT, I'll sell you my old Sony D8.

[thomasdrv]

I got myself a used Sony PCM M1 

[H₂O]

Congrats