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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #150 on: August 14, 2013, 02:50:25 AM »
All I do is formatting the memory card after every show . That was a great piece of advice I did read here !
I didnt read it. Why need to format memory card after every recording job?
You don't need to. I usually only format the card if I think I don't have enough space on it anymore OR if I deleted/edited a recording on the card.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #151 on: August 14, 2013, 03:40:04 AM »
All I do is formatting the memory card after every show . That was a great piece of advice I did read here !
I didnt read it. Why need to format memory card after every recording job?
You don't need to. I usually only format the card if I think I don't have enough space on it anymore OR if I deleted/edited a recording on the card.

I always format the card after every job (on any recorder, not just the M10), because there are numerous examples on TS of folk that don't and then got an unreadable or corrupted file or something on their next show. Often it doesn't happen, but occasionally it does.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #152 on: August 14, 2013, 06:54:55 AM »
I'd say that's overkill (formatting after each use).  Been recording digitally for 5+ years and have never had a card fail me (I don't use cheap off brand products).

From my own experience, you won't run into problems as long as you don't keep deleting files in the middle of the card.  I just keep recording until the card is full and then format.  Zero problems.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #153 on: August 14, 2013, 07:06:48 AM »
From my own experience, you won't run into problems as long as you don't keep deleting files in the middle of the card.  I just keep recording until the card is full and then format.  Zero problems.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #154 on: August 14, 2013, 08:05:42 AM »
I just find it easier to format the card rather than delete the files.  Simple as that.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #155 on: August 14, 2013, 09:53:38 AM »
I have read somewhere in one of these 11 threads ( probably closer to the beginning ) it's better to format than to delete .
The Micro SD card has to be deleted anyway after a concert , so formatting is the easiest option . It works flawless .
I actually format every card I have now , including cards used for video etc.
I even format my USB sticks after use .
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #156 on: August 14, 2013, 07:27:49 PM »
From my own experience, you won't run into problems as long as you don't keep deleting files in the middle of the card.  I just keep recording until the card is full and then format.  Zero problems.

This is what I do too. No funny business thus far...

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #157 on: August 14, 2013, 09:46:25 PM »
I format the card BEFORE I go to the next show rather than after the last one.

We have so few recording opportunities here on Maui and my recorder sits unused for an extended period of time.

The format process is part of a test to make sure all recorder functions are operating properly. This is holdout from my mini-disc days when I needed to make sure the disc was seated properly, etc.


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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #158 on: August 17, 2013, 07:41:51 PM »
caution: don't format your card before getting the data off the card. So this means you should NOT format while at a show!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #159 on: August 18, 2013, 01:29:11 AM »
caution: don't format your card before getting the data off the card. So this means you should NOT format while at a show!

A bitter lesson I learned very early on when making the transition from physical media (tail-end of cassette and the mid-to-late DAT era) to HDD/memory-based recording...

I *always* transfer and label data from the recorder(s) to at least my DAW and another HDD as soon as I get home from a gig. Maybe the next morning if it is an exceptionally late night, but always within 24 hours of the gig.

Yeah, it takes some discipline to establish that routine, but once I did I have only ever accidentally erased/formatted or otherwise lost a recording maybe 2 or 3 times.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #160 on: August 18, 2013, 03:18:27 AM »
I *always* transfer and label data from the recorder(s) to at least my DAW and another HDD as soon as I get home from a gig. Maybe the next morning if it is an exceptionally late night, but always within 24 hours of the gig.

I think this is very sensible.

I never format a memory card until everything on it is on at least two other drives. The chaos that ensues when trying to synchronise multiple hard drives is another matter entirely  :-\
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #161 on: August 18, 2013, 10:33:57 AM »
I format my micro sdhc card *before* every show. That way I have the master copy of my most recent show until the next one. Making the formatting part of my pre show routine has been easy: I format the card while setting up the microphones.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #162 on: August 18, 2013, 10:49:23 AM »
I format my micro sdhc card *before* every show. That way I have the master copy of my most recent show u tip the next one. Making the formatting part of my pre show routine has been easy: I format the card while setting up the microphones.

I do the same!! 
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #163 on: August 18, 2013, 11:12:02 AM »
I format my micro sdhc card *before* every show. That way I have the master copy of my most recent show u tip the next one. Making the formatting part of my pre show routine has been easy: I format the card while setting up the microphones.

I do the same!!

Yep that's me too - pre-show routine is methodical and predictable - drain and re-charge batteries, transfer files from card from last show, format card, clean mic contacts, check mics and M10 work, tape down buttons on M10....... 

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #164 on: August 23, 2013, 02:23:04 PM »
Hello today I received my Soundprofessionals MS-TFB-2 binaural microphones. And made some testings with Sony PCM M-10 & MS-TFB-2

I found that hiss noise is pretty loud. I can easily hear it even on rec gain 3. WHY?

the link to audio https://soundcloud.com/dave_scream/sony-pcm-m-10

His laptop inner soundcard and cheap version of soundprofessionals microphones have the same hiss as mine Sony PCM and master series of microphone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GNBFE7KD8ZE#t=392   6:32


How to make quiet sounds recording clearlier? how to lower hiss noise level. How much help the Preamp will give for this recordings?
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