Topic: help burning DVD-audio

[dmonterisi]

i see what you are saying, but every dvd-a that i encode is clearly labeled as to bit depth and sample rate.  I do not think it is accurate to say that dvd-a was only developed for 24/192.  24/96 is still very high resolution.  and you have to look at the gain in resolution say when taping a PA in a club versus file size.  i'm not sure you gain very much in most concert taping environments at 24/192.  of course, in ideal situations 24/192 is very muc preferred.  it seems your issue is more with people not tracking the lineage properly, which is a valid complaint.  but most people taping at 24bit that i've seen are pretty aware of the need for proper documentation.

[stlram]

I agree that PA recording at higher frequency, even 24/96 might be (is) over kill!!!!! In most situations 44/16 is good enough for audience PA recordings.

And, yes, I guess my issue is more focused on  documenting bit depth and sampling frequency.

Most of my recordings are FOB/ direct stage sound, acoustic ambient or on the stage recordings, with many of them being on the stage, with the more recent ability to record four channels mixed down to two with the future goal of four track. Read board/aud, ORTF/SPLIT Onmis or XY/Spot mics. Many of the folks I hang with and trade with record stage and FOB as I listed. That's why when I was told that the recording was DVD-A, only to find out that it was 24/48 I was a bit disappointed, hoping it was 96/24 or better yet 192/24.

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

Again, I think it is important for folks to accurately discribe what they are burning and when someone states DVD-A in two channel and it is something less than 192/24 it can be misleading especially when it is 24/48, not that there is anything wrong with that but it is a far cry from what DVD-A was meant to support.   

It is not misleading to use the term DVDA.  The rate and depth of the sampled recording has absolutely nothing to do with the authored data format.  When someone hands you a disk and says "here is a DVDA" they are referring to the authored format that is on the media.  If they mean to say that the recording is 24/192, then they are missusing the designation DVDA.

It's like giving someone a compressed audio file and saying "here's a flac of my recording".  To say "flac" refers to the specific compression type, not the bit depth or sample rate of the compressed recording.

As for what DVD-A was meant to support: it was meant to support many different rate and depth combinations.  Just because a format allows for a very high resolution recording does not mean that is was not intended for use with lower resolution recordings.  In that case the format on a fixed sized media provides greater temporal capacity, so you can store an entire show or two at 16/44.1 instead of half a set at 24/192. 

[Craig T]

Hey Graig,

Get that turtable hooked up will ya!

I will this weekend, I promise.  I do need some vinyl.  Might have to make a run into the city tomorrow.

-Craig.  with a 'C'.   

[stlram]

Craig,

Philly has some great used vinyl stores!!!!!!

[surf1div1]

Well, thanks again for all the feedback- I've alway's understood the DVD-Audio in the context that it was 24 bit, 98 khz and am aware of higher sampling rates, but was primarily aiming my question as to the validity of that product that I mentioned being able to 'deliver' something along the lines of 24/96 without having to  purchase a $100 piece of software(discwelder bronze) when something else would do it for less. I know it's relative to what I'm doing, but for me, I'm just getting into recording, and am using PD-Audio to get 24/88.2 recordings on a PC card of which I can transfer to my computer and want to burn to a DVD.

[acoustiking]

A "real" DVDa has all the files in the AUDIO_TS folder. On a regular/hybrid DVD, the files are in the VIDEO_TS folder. Some better "regular" DVD authoring software will allow PCM audio, but most will compress the audio  (.ac3 for exmple).

Discwelder Bronze will get you there but be careful on gaps between songs. If you import each track individually into Discwelder Bronze, you'll get a gap. You can impprt one large file and cue tracks within the program, but after 1 hour of music it will automatically start putting a gap bewteen songs even with a cue.

[Craig T]

Not true.  I use Bronze exclusively for author/burn DVD-A's and don't have any gaps when importing each track individually.  In fact, I'm not even familiar with Bronze's "cue track" tool - where is it?  Plenty of my DVD-A's run past 1 hour and no gaps.

Discwelder Bronze will get you there but be careful on gaps between songs. If you import each track individually into Discwelder Bronze, you'll get a gap. You can impprt one large file and cue tracks within the program, but after 1 hour of music it will automatically start putting a gap bewteen songs even with a cue.

[acoustiking]

I dabbled with Bronze before I started using Chrome and it didn't have the gapless feature. Maybe the sofware was upgraded since I used it last. That's good news!