Topic: X/Ying shotguns?

[ts]

I've asked this question before on Oade, and Doug answered with, "If they will do 45%, it's OK". Or something like that. Any thoughts on this. I mean guns leave out enough anyway, would'nt X/Ying them eliminate even more? And besides how would one even get the X/Y pattern with something that is 15 in. long?
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[ts]

Besides the technical difficulties of setting it up, why would anyone want to? Just doesn't make any sense. Guns should be pointed at the stacks, maybe 12 inches apart and use either a card indoors or an omni outdoors as a center blend to fill in the hole and broaden the sound. At least thats what the Nak live 3 point recording system says.

[Cooker]

use 2 stands.

[Kyle]

I used to run Sennheiser ME-80 guns, and I set them up almost x/y, kinda like this /\.
Pulled my best tapes (with those mics) with that config

[ts]

I used to run Sennheiser ME-80 guns, and I set them up almost x/y, kinda like this /\.
Pulled my best tapes (with those mics) with that config

OK. I'm thinking maybe it was a an idea some crafty tapers came up with in the last few years of the GD. What to do in those big ass awful sounding stadiums. Take your long guns out and zero in on the target. I've heard of a few doing it but I've only actually seen it done recently at small indoor venues, and it just doesn't make sense in that scenario.

[MarkDavidson218]

there's a ratdog show from hob in cali on bt.etree.org. i belive the tapers name is rob r. i see his tapes all over the archive. he uses the cm300 w/ guns (xy) and a omni. also i think i remember jessie from team ohio doing the same thing at a few shows back in summer of 03. i've never heard any of the tapes. i'm not a big guns fan. but i've just motived my self to check a few out.
-mark

[Kyle]

Yea, Rob did a ton of GD shows with the Nak guns x/y with an omni center mic - there should be some of those on the archive, pretty decent on the whole.  I tried it one with the the Sennheisers (GD Shorline 7/3/94) and it worked pretty well. I used it off and on after that, usually on the lawn at amphitheaters. Like I said, the results were very listenable. I have long since moved to cards and would never go back to guns, but they do allright

[spyder9]

I've also seen setups where you use 2 cards and a shotgun in the center. 

Regardless, all 3 can be run on 1 stand if you use a Super Clamp.

[Patrick]

there's a ratdog show from hob in cali on bt.etree.org. i belive the tapers name is rob r. i see his tapes all over the archive. he uses the cm300 w/ guns (xy) and a omni. also i think i remember jessie from team ohio doing the same thing at a few shows back in summer of 03. i've never heard any of the tapes. i'm not a big guns fan. but i've just motived my self to check a few out.
-mark

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't that Rob guy run all Nakamichi CM300's?

He has 2 CP4 shotguns with a CP3 (omni) sandwiched in between.

He did the December Phil run at the Warfield, and his tapes are smokin hot. 

[MarkDavidson218]

dude that guy does know how to run those nak's....wounder if he really know what he's doing or just has good luck lol
-mark