Topic: aiming microphones..............

[phishy12]

if you are not DFC, rather if you are pretty far left or right, do you still point your mics straight forward or do you angle them more toward center??

[phishy12]

come on..............41 people have read this, and no replies?? what do most of you do in this situation??

[Gordon]

most of us don't ever "point our mics straight forward".    I've never had to run so far off center that I still couldn't run DIN or xy etc.  if I did I would just point at the stacks.

[sygdwm]

agreed. point at the stacks either din or xy.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

At our local club, we run LOC about 5'...  I usually run DIN, but I rotate my center axis to point at the center of the stage.  So I'm not pointed straight forward, but slightly to the right...

T

[rowjimmytour]

At our local club, we run LOC about 5'...  I usually run DIN, but I rotate my center axis to point at the center of the stage.  So I'm not pointed straight forward, but slightly to the right...

T

I second this and I am about 8'LDFC and I usually point my mics center running DIN. Ya just have to experiment and see what works.
Peace

[Swampy]

I guess I'm different than most in that when I am off to one side or the other I don't use the center of the stage to orient my pattern. It's gonna be hard for me to explain this... Lets say you're off to the left side running DIN, if you use the center as your orientation point, not only are you getting more direct sound from the left stack, but your left mic is pointed closer to the stack. That means that you arn't getting as much direct sound from the right side, and you right mic is pointing further from the stack. To me this seems to make a lopsided recording, lots of direct sound from the side you are on, and not as much from the opposite side.  * = where your mic is pointing, m = your mic stand position



                          *  STACK                                  STACK          *







                                           
 
                                        m
                           

To correct this, I tend to orient the center of my stereo field closer to the side that my mic stand is on. This way, your mic pointing to the opposite side is pointing more directly at the stack, and the mic on the side of your mic stand is pointing less directly at the closest stack, getting less direct sound. This balancing out the image a bit....

                   *         STACK                                  STACK  *







                                           
 
                                        m




Does this make sense to anyone else? Or, am I completely crazy

[phishy12]

most of us don't ever "point our mics straight forward".    I've never had to run so far off center that I still couldn't run DIN or xy etc.  if I did I would just point at the stacks.

i guess i didn't ask the question clearly. i was referring to the center axis and whether you left it pointing straight forward or if you tried to rotate it more toward the center of the stage or stacks??

the reason i ask, is i ran schoeps hypers at ratdog in vegas. i was clamped to a stand with a guy running the classic nak setup with the 2 guns and the super omni in the middle. we were about 20ft ROC and he had the guns pointed straight at bobby which turned the center axis about 10-15 degrees. my recording turned out completley lacking the low end and was wondering if this off center axis would have caused this?? i've ran the mk41's plenty of times and had great results, but this was by far the worst!!! and it sounded pretty damn good in the HOB.................

[phishy12]

i follow you swampy......so instead of having the center axis aimed between the stacks, you'd maybe give a half turn towards center to try and even up where the mics are actually pointing.

[ethan]

Does this make sense to anyone else? Or, am I completely crazy

Yep...that's exactly my approach.

[eclark]

Does this make sense to anyone else? Or, am I completely crazy

Yep...that's exactly my approach.

agreed. last night i had to run my mics *slightly* off center to the right, and even though i tried to compensate this way, i think my recording might have come out just a tad off center. maybe adding a little gain to the left channel will help...

+t for the explaination swampy :]

[Chuck]

I do as Swampy does, too.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I guess I'm different than most in that when I am off to one side or the other I don't use the center of the stage to orient my pattern.

This makes more sense than what I do...  i'll try this next time.

Terry

[gratefulphish]

I do as Swampy does, too.

Generally ditto, but in some clubs down here, we are literally forced to the wall, requiring one mic virtually straight on, and the other one adjusted depending on how far back we are, and location of the PA. 

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I guess I'm different than most in that when I am off to one side or the other I don't use the center of the stage to orient my pattern.

This makes more sense than what I do...  i'll try this next time.

Terry

We were at our club tonite, I checked out our position...  Its weird, I'll have to draw a pix tomorrow, but I'm combining both my thoughts and Swampy's???  I'll show you what I'm doing, I know I'm an idiot, so running F-ed up wouldn't surprise me...

T