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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #150 on: September 21, 2016, 06:10:07 PM »
didn't want to start a new thread but is the M10 bigger than the Roland r-05

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #151 on: September 24, 2016, 01:12:06 AM »
Track naming OK with leading zeroes?

remember,

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'Hate to side  track the M20 talk, but I've got a question about using the M10 as a MP3 player when traveling.
I've got a 16gb card in the slot and have renamed several folders with appropriate titles for the new contents that I drag and drop from my PC file structure to the M10. 

Occasionally, not every case, the files that are copied from PC > M10 will appear in order, but the last track will play first on the M10.  Very frustrating and I don't really know what I may be doing to promote this behavior.  Perhaps it's not a very reliable file structure.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #152 on: October 05, 2016, 10:49:07 PM »
I'm running my newly acquired DPA 4061's --> 9V BB --->  M10 for the first time -- for a couple of upcoming John Prine shows -- and wondering, LINE IN or MIC IN?  Thanks!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #153 on: October 06, 2016, 12:28:51 AM »
I'm running my newly acquired DPA 4061's --> 9V BB --->  M10 for the first time -- for a couple of upcoming John Prine shows -- and wondering, LINE IN or MIC IN?  Thanks!

I would use LINE IN.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #154 on: October 06, 2016, 04:17:06 AM »
I'm running my newly acquired DPA 4061's --> 9V BB --->  M10 for the first time -- for a couple of upcoming John Prine shows -- and wondering, LINE IN or MIC IN?  Thanks!
  I would use mic in. A battery box is not a preamplifier only a power supply. John Prine should not be overwhelmingly loud.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #155 on: October 06, 2016, 09:12:34 AM »
I'm running my newly acquired DPA 4061's --> 9V BB --->  M10 for the first time -- for a couple of upcoming John Prine shows -- and wondering, LINE IN or MIC IN?  Thanks!
  I would use mic in. A battery box is not a preamplifier only a power supply. John Prine should not be overwhelmingly loud.

If there's an opener, play with the gain settings for both and see which one sits in a more comfortable range. You'll probably be fine with either LINE IN with the gain cranked way up or MIC IN with the gain set lower. (I've never used 4061s, so can't speak to how sensitive they are.)

And, of course, be sure to record in 24-bit so that if you end up with a quieter recording, you have plenty of bits to play with when enloudening it later.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #156 on: October 06, 2016, 09:56:15 AM »
I'm running my newly acquired DPA 4061's --> 9V BB --->  M10 for the first time -- for a couple of upcoming John Prine shows -- and wondering, LINE IN or MIC IN?  Thanks!
  I would use mic in. A battery box is not a preamplifier only a power supply. John Prine should not be overwhelmingly loud.

I agree,  but use the LOW setting on the mic attenuation

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #157 on: October 06, 2016, 06:25:44 PM »
yes, always use the low setting for mic input. The high setting is way too hot.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #158 on: October 06, 2016, 08:41:53 PM »
Thanks for all the input, I'm going to take advantage of the opening act and do a little experimenting, I will post my results!

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #159 on: October 06, 2016, 11:36:30 PM »
M10's preamps are pretty good....  IMO, go battery box > MIC input. 
Set your peak lights for -12...  set levels to try to keep em peaking in the green (as close as you can).  Even with 24 bit, do your best not to waste any bits.
From people smarter than me, the M10 is marketed as 24 bit....  but results are closer to 16 bits. 
Start with levels set at 4 or 5 on the dial...  and adjust accordingly.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #160 on: October 07, 2016, 04:10:38 AM »
Wanna check your levels with nobody else around? Try hollering a few feet away from your setup... you know, the way folks will at a John Prine show?! That oughtta be louder than the music, unless you set your mics next to the main PA stacks.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #161 on: October 07, 2016, 02:14:11 PM »
Wanna check your levels with nobody else around? Try hollering a few feet away from your setup... you know, the way folks will at a John Prine show?! That oughtta be louder than the music, unless you set your mics next to the main PA stacks.
Funny, but true! Good idea!

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #162 on: October 07, 2016, 02:19:45 PM »
M10's preamps are pretty good....  IMO, go battery box > MIC input. 
Set your peak lights for -12...  set levels to try to keep em peaking in the green (as close as you can).  Even with 24 bit, do your best not to waste any bits.
From people smarter than me, the M10 is marketed as 24 bit....  but results are closer to 16 bits. 
Start with levels set at 4 or 5 on the dial...  and adjust accordingly.
Fantastic little deck!!!

........I think I met you once years ago at Toyota Park Phish maybe??  You told me that you used to run B&K's maybe??
Make great tapes man!!!

Yup, that was me. Good memory. Used to run the B&K 4011's back in the day, LOVED those mics, made some great pulls with 'em!
I've been out of the game for quite some time and not up to speed with current technology, so thanks for the suggestions!

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #163 on: October 11, 2016, 02:25:03 PM »
Our beloved recorder has been discontinued by Sony.    :alert:

B&H shows it as so.  Sony has removed from its product page. 

An end of an era:  one of the greatest portable recorders of all time.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #164 on: October 13, 2016, 09:18:06 AM »
one of the greatest portable recorders of all time.
That is why I got an extra one despite my idol being dead now.

 

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