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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #180 on: November 03, 2016, 12:51:21 PM »
Here's another quirk of the PCMM10 that I found by accident: I don't recommend anyone try is, but you can get signal/recording levels by plugging microphones into the headphone jack.


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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #181 on: November 03, 2016, 02:01:42 PM »
I suspect the signal you are getting in that situation is from the internal mics.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #182 on: November 03, 2016, 03:06:06 PM »
You know you could be right!

But for some reason I still wonder if it might have been the microphones.  I was recording test tones with some church ca-11's about 1cm away from a speaker to test for a balance problem.  I got the headphone and microphone input plugs mixed up and noticed my error when I saw a dramatic difference in recording levels.  I can't remember if the levels were higher or lower going into the headphone jack as the microphone problem I was trying to record involved a dramatic volume difference and I was switching around different microphones and caps.

I was just happy that I didn't screw up the recorder!  :facepalm:

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #183 on: November 04, 2016, 10:38:08 AM »
You know you could be right!

But for some reason I still wonder if it might have been the microphones.  I was recording test tones with some church ca-11's about 1cm away from a speaker to test for a balance problem.  I got the headphone and microphone input plugs mixed up and noticed my error when I saw a dramatic difference in recording levels.  I can't remember if the levels were higher or lower going into the headphone jack as the microphone problem I was trying to record involved a dramatic volume difference and I was switching around different microphones and caps.

I was just happy that I didn't screw up the recorder!  :facepalm:

If you have mics plugged into the headphone jack, that means there are no mics plugged into the mic or line input, so it will then default to the internal mics. It is not and would not be recording from mics plugged into the headphone jack, but it will output through those mics.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #184 on: November 07, 2016, 04:20:11 PM »
Hello all, newbie here so forgive the basic question. I finally have a set of mics coming (CA-11 cards) that I can test my M10 with. I don't have a battery box yet, so I will be plugging them directly into the device for now. Am I right in thinking I should use the mic in port with plug in power enabled? Or should it be the line in port instead? I read that the mic in port should be used more if it's a quieter/acoustic type set (I typically go to quite loud indie/rock type shows), so it's thrown me off a little.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #185 on: November 07, 2016, 04:31:01 PM »
Hello all, newbie here so forgive the basic question. I finally have a set of mics coming (CA-11 cards) that I can test my M10 with. I don't have a battery box yet, so I will be plugging them directly into the device for now. Am I right in thinking I should use the mic in port with plug in power enabled? Or should it be the line in port instead? I read that the mic in port should be used more if it's a quieter/acoustic type set (I typically go to quite loud indie/rock type shows), so it's thrown me off a little.

Correct: If you don't have a battery box, you need to go Mic In with plug-in power, or the mics will just sit there unpowered and not do anything.

Once you do get a battery box, you can leave PIP off and choose between the more sensitive mic port (for quieter shows) and the less sensitive line in port (for louder ones).

If you mostly go to loud indie/rock type shows, I would guess that you're going to be less than thrilled with the performance of those mics until you get a battery box to provide sufficient voltage.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #186 on: December 08, 2016, 11:07:31 AM »
Anyone experience line out/headphone jack failure?

My M-10 will not send a signal through a cable when inserted nor turn off the built in speaker.

I took the back cover off and examined the jack, it seems secured to the board, though looks rather accessible since it is underneath another board

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #187 on: January 08, 2017, 06:34:08 PM »
I was tempted to start another Sony M-10 thread, because having four or five at the same time makes so much more sense.  But, its been awhile since I logged on here, and actually was double shocked to learn two things: 

(1) That Sony has discontinued the World's best pocket recorder.  I have two but then again, I simply don't understand why a company would discontinue such a great little unit.

(2) Putting aside the corporate decision to discontinue it, not having a replacement for this market seems silly.  Will I have to get a third unit?  Jeez. 
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #188 on: January 09, 2017, 09:31:39 AM »
I got me 3rd unit...  ;D

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #189 on: January 09, 2017, 09:36:43 AM »
sounds like i need a 3rd too... and/or hope that all of my local friends with the deck will be my 3rd level backup lol

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #190 on: January 09, 2017, 08:42:08 PM »
I was tempted to start another Sony M-10 thread, because having four or five at the same time makes so much more sense.

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(1) That Sony has discontinued the World's best pocket recorder.  I have two but then again, I simply don't understand why a company would discontinue such a great little unit.

(2) Putting aside the corporate decision to discontinue it, not having a replacement for this market seems silly.  Will I have to get a third unit?  Jeez.

Agreed on both points, but maybe it wasn't selling well anymore on a large scale, despite its huge popularity here.  There's the PCM-D100 but that appears to be the replacement for the PCM-D50.  Compared to the M10, it's also a whole lot more money for only adding a new DAC capable of DSD and 192kHz recording.  It's hard to imagine that unit is flying off the shelves though, considering its high price for rather limited functionality compared to competition from other brands.

By every appearance, Sony is abandoning this market segment.  In contrast, Tascam is saturating the hell out of it.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #191 on: January 10, 2017, 07:57:52 AM »
There's the PCM-D100 but that appears to be the replacement for the PCM-D50.

I think it's more likely the replacement for their flagship PCM-D1.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #192 on: January 10, 2017, 08:27:41 AM »
There's the PCM-D100 but that appears to be the replacement for the PCM-D50.

I think it's more likely the replacement for their flagship PCM-D1.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #193 on: January 10, 2017, 03:45:05 PM »
There's the PCM-D100 but that appears to be the replacement for the PCM-D50.

I think it's more likely the replacement for their flagship PCM-D1.

The D100 is the D50 replacement!!

I don't agree.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #194 on: January 10, 2017, 05:50:32 PM »
The brochure on Sony's website says, "...successor to Sony's PCM-D50", but I'm not sure the distinction is all that important.
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