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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Vally1978 on September 22, 2004, 02:11:42 PM
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I need a decent mic, nothing fancy for recording concerts in arenas or larger theatres. I am really tight on money these days, but am wondering what I can get that is on the cheaper side but will sound decent. I am taping for myself, so the "trained ear" will not be hearing these recordings. I am looking for small mics too, not the larger ones. I also would like to do without a battery box, thanks!
Any suggesstions?
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define "cheaper side"
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superlux set? Thats definitely on the cheaper side....
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What are you trying to record?
What is your max. allowabel budget?
Do you have space limitations? (other than that warranting small diaphram mics)
Terry
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Do you not want battery box 'cause of the money, or some other reason?
I have a set of quite stealthy SP mics (built into a set of headphones) w/ a bb that I'll sell you for quite cheap. I just need to run the new set I got to make sure all is well, and then I will part with them. I'm talking like $100 or so for the whole thing.
Go to soundprofessionals.com and search for the items at the bottom of my sig to see what I am talking about. I've stealthed quite a bit of sheeit with them, and you'll be happy with them.
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When I say cheap I mean less then $50.
I don't want this to take up too much space. That is why I don't want to bother with a battery box.
I am a newbie, so I am interested in just getting some shows on cd first...then I will decide where to go from there. A better mic, battery box, etc.
So...I have been looking on ebay,a nd they have really cheap mics on there, but I am not sure if they are crap. I guess cheap=crap, but I just wanna get some practice in for now. In the Spring I am gonna start taping some Sarah Mclachlan shows.
Help!
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Not much you can do with $50 that will be listenable at concert-level volumes... Good luck
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Look for the sony mics- I bought my first mic, a Sony909A, on ebay for $45. But that's a pretty big mic (relatively speaking...) but it worked.
You're going to need something that is powered by an internal battery.
And I am not trying to shill here, but there's a huge, huge difference between a battery powered mic, and mics powered by battery box. Enough improvement to warrant spending $50 if you can.
This is an addictive, expensive hobby...
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Are these mics shit?
http://search.ebay.com/minidisc-mic_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsotrZ2QQsosortpropertyZ1QQsosortorderZ1
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Yeah, but you are getting what you pay for...
Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but you aren't going to find anything that people wouldn't consider shit for $50 or less. But, its you, not us, who is spending the money and listening to the tapes, so if you're happy, then that's what matters.
Just don't listen to other people's tapes- you'll want to upgrade with a quickness then.
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Just don't listen to other people's tapes- you'll want to upgrade with a quickness then.
I know...I know.
One day I will get there...haha!
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do those mics have cables with them?? It looked like it was only a mic. if no cable, you'll have to get some kind of cable.
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do those mics have cables with them?? It looked like it was only a mic. if no cable, you'll have to get some kind of cable.
It looks like a few of them just plug right into the mic input.
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do those mics have cables with them?? It looked like it was only a mic. if no cable, you'll have to get some kind of cable.
It looks like a few of them just plug right into the mic input.
IC. What are you recording with?
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What are you recording with?
I just got a SONY MZ R900 MD recorder. Have not used it yet....like I said, a total newbie! haha! I will be going to a show next week at a small lounge though....gonna use it for a practice run. Just purchased it on ebay yesterday.
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What are you recording with?
I just got a SONY MZ R900 MD recorder. Have not used it yet....like I said, a total newbie! haha! I will be going to a show next week at a small lounge though....gonna use it for a practice run. Just purchased it on ebay yesterday.
Do you know if it has a mic input?
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yup it does, checked into that for sure!
http://minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-R900.html
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Those mic's don't have a battery in them, do they? I don't think they'll work if they don't have a battery.
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I have no idea...it says they are for use with minidisc tho....I've not bought one yet, still looking around.
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a mic w/o a battery in it is not going to work. I found that out when I used the mic's I am trying to sell w/o a battery box. There was nasty static all over the whole tape. Completely unusable.
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If you're looking at mini clip-on type mics then give SoundProfessionals a gander... They have many similar microphones, and they read the board (I think... right retailer?)
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He's looking at cheaper than SP... I already tried to shill him my used SP mics...
under $50.... gonna be tuff to do.
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maybe the giant squid stuff? dont recall how cheap that stuff is
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I went to the Giant squid site...and this is what I see....now which type of mic do I want?
"Specialists in Miniature Stereo and Mono, Cardioid and Omnidirectional Microphones"
I have no idea!
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Something like this?
It says u just plug it in, so I imagine it doesn't need a battery.
http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/gs/gs-oak.html
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Here take a look on here they only cell md and they have low end mics. http://www.minidisco.com/mics-headphones-mics.html
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When I 1st started taping I had this mic with my d6 analog. You'll be suprised how good it sounds for $33.
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=90099950&loc=12435&sp=1
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Something like this?
It says u just plug it in, so I imagine it doesn't need a battery.
http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/gs/gs-oak.html
to be quite honest anything you do with that is going to sound like absolute shit, it won't even be listenable. Instead of dropping 50 bucks on a piece of trash, just save an extra 40 and buy these: http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/gs/gs-poweredbattery1.htm I made great tapes with almost these exact same ones and it will actually be a worthwhile set of mics. The battery box is so small it shouldnt be a problem to hide, and to get anything worth listening to again you are going to have to get a battery box.
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This is my first mic (and the place I got it from). I bought it because a MD taper friend of mine also uses it. I just started this summer, but have gotten some pretty good sounding shows using it.
http://www.thetwistergroup.com/product/ECM-719%2520D11514.html
It's only $64 and it's small enough to stealth with.
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don't mind me while i try to make a sale here ;D
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=26377.0
i bought these as a step up from my sony ecm mic back in the day. and they were a huge improvement. if i were you, i'd go for a battery box, it might be a bit of a pain, but really, its worth it. with the battery box the mics can handle higher SPLs (sound pressure levels) and they'll sound a lot better. these are omni's, which means they'll pick up things around them, however, i've taped many a concert with them and have never really had problems with them picking up the conversation of the people behind me. I'd usually always wear them in binaural fashion - clipped on the bill of my baseball hat right where the bill meets the hat itself and they worked like a charm.
I'd let them go for $80 and I'd pay shipping. Its a bit more than $50, but I think you'll find it to be worth the money. These are dynamic audio mics, and in my opinion they sound better than the giant squid mics - but thats just my opinion.
I ran these right into my nomad jukebox's line-in, if you'd like to hear some samples...
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=8784
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12999
...there are some plus a bunch of others in the fuzz section. good luck and happy taping.
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Dang, Ed... Wish I had seen this offer for 80 few days ago! I just bought those Squids from SirChek...
Yeah, Valley. Pick up those mics from SpeshulEd, or that $65 sony uni-directional (twister group link). And run that into the MD. That'll be perfect starter rig, small, stealthy.
My worthless advice,
Terry
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+t - its all good.
i don't think the dynamic audios are being made anymore - the webby doesn't work anymore - they're decent mics tho for the price. lots of smashing pumpkins tapers used them from what i heard.
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Thanks for the help guys....I am thinking of getitng the SONY ONE-POINT UNIDIRECTIONAL STEREO MICROPHONE. I already got myself a crappy mic and power supply to just record a show next week for the first time. So I am stuck with that...it will probably sound like crap to everyone, but me, haha.....practice makes perfect...or well close to it cause I know I'll never be that great at taping.
The guy I am buying them from says the mics sound better then just good, so we'll see if he is talking out of his arse, or not. haha.
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907 baby!