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AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« on: October 12, 2005, 10:09:42 PM »
this is a small comp of these 2 different mics

tracks are from the Widespread Panic show 10-04-2005 Memphis, TN.

Neither sources have been seeded before.




source: AKG c414b xls/ST (omni) > V3 > D8
AKG 482 > V3 >D8
2nd row of section, DFC, 3' slit on t-bar
transfer: DA20mkII > VX pocket V2 > Soundeforge 6.0 > CD Wave > flacfrontend (level 6)


wsp2005-10-04_REBIRTHA_SOURCE_1.flac:c617d486dde896eb9d3eade180f77b16
wsp2005-10-04_REBIRTHA_SOURCE_2.flac:b703446738fb012f21862b8cb24f526e
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 10:22:42 PM »
I keep getting an error from teh tracker when tryign to d/l this
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 10:40:12 PM »
try now

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 11:00:59 PM »
got it..thnx!
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2005, 11:06:34 PM »
what do ya'll think of this ??? i wanna know how the ck62's were compared to the 414 xls omni's ???

come on tommy, PM me whatcha think before i get to hear these once ya send em ;D

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 11:09:11 PM »

were the ck62's off 3db ???


yes.....but levels were matched up for comp

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2005, 11:48:24 PM »
i kinda liked source 1 a little better, but i thought they were both kinda the same...

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was source 1 the LD?
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2005, 12:16:46 AM »

were the ck62's off 3db ???


yes.....but levels were matched up for comp

oh im sure, just seein if they were off the same as what i saw ;D
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2005, 12:25:48 AM »
Anyone else having trouble with the torrent?  Kicks off, d/ls okay...then slowly reduces to 0 kbps over a few minutes.  Stop torrent, start it again, d/ls okay...then slowly reduces to 0 kbps over a few minutes.  Repeat, repeat, repeat.  ???
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2005, 01:11:57 AM »
Anyone else having trouble with the torrent?  Kicks off, d/ls okay...then slowly reduces to 0 kbps over a few minutes.  Stop torrent, start it again, d/ls okay...then slowly reduces to 0 kbps over a few minutes.  Repeat, repeat, repeat.  ???

same here


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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2005, 10:25:39 AM »
come on people...give some feedback

which is which?

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2005, 11:28:19 AM »
come on people...give some feedback

which is which?

I'm really looking forward to this....gimme a few seconds ;D


I'm going with #2 for the LDs.  Man, that was really hard.  I was expecting a more noticeable difference between the two.  Gotta love AKG omnis though.
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2005, 11:39:34 AM »
I think that source two is the 482's.    Source #1 just sounds a little more colored which
I would think leans toward the LD's off axis response.  Both sound really good, and this was just listening on my
computer monitoring system, not the full on stereo.

but what do I know....
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2005, 05:36:05 PM »
i think source 1 is 482. i like source 2 better. not sure why, cause they do sound alike. that said, i like my source better.  ;)
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2005, 05:47:15 PM »
Only a quick listen, but I'd say:

1 = 482 - crisper HF, LF not as meaty, better transient detail (sounds "faster")
2 = 414 - attenuated HF relative to 1, meatier LF, less transient detail (sounds "slower")

In this case, I prefer 1.  Sounds to me like the venue was too big and the section too far back for the LD omnis to really shine.  Unless, of course, I'm wrong on my guess, in which case - great location for the LD omnis!
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2005, 05:47:45 PM »
spill it yo!  which is which  >:D
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2005, 06:15:01 PM »
Only a quick listen, but I'd say:

1 = 482 - crisper HF, LF not as meaty, better transient detail (sounds "faster")
2 = 414 - attenuated HF relative to 1, meatier LF, less transient detail (sounds "slower")

In this case, I prefer 1.  Sounds to me like the venue was too big and the section too far back for the LD omnis to really shine.  Unless, of course, I'm wrong on my guess, in which case - great location for the LD omnis!

the section wasnt *that* far back. we were raised above and directly behind the sbd. mud island is not very big. i ran u89(subs)>v3 and it is not distant like you'd figure LD's to be too far back. i agree w/ your conclusions, you just say it better.
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2005, 06:51:31 PM »
Which is it, Tommy?  Is Brian correct?

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2005, 10:37:37 PM »
Brian is correct  ;D

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2005, 10:44:15 PM »
i think source 1 is 482. i like source 2 better. not sure why, cause they do sound alike. that said, i like my source better.  ;)

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2005, 10:51:14 PM »
i think source 1 is 482. i like source 2 better. not sure why, cause they do sound alike. that said, i like my source better.  ;)

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i know...but you said you liked your source better  ::)

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2005, 10:52:27 PM »
It's not a contest or competition, guys.
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2005, 10:53:26 PM »
did you d/l mine you cocksucker. listen for yourself unless you dont like bass...

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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2005, 10:59:18 PM »
so who came in first ??? 8)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2005, 11:09:14 PM »
so who came in first ??? 8)

u89(subs)>v3 >:D
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2005, 11:15:36 PM »
i think its a tie

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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2005, 11:23:43 PM »
It's not a contest or competition, guys.


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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2005, 11:34:21 PM »
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2005, 03:06:30 AM »
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
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Re: AKG 414 xls (omni) AKG 482 comparison
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2005, 09:48:31 AM »
actually, i ran twoodruff's u89(subcards)>v3.
mics: (4)akg c460b(a60,mk46,ck1x,ck1,ck2,ck3,ck61,ck63)
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