Topic: I want to start taping a local band >>>>>

[jasonw]

So is would it be pretty easy to hook up my jb3 to their stuff.  I know the cords and stuff I need but I am thinking more of on their end.  They have a portable PA system most of the time and the other times they are going to be in bars.  Do I need to know anything special???  I know what the xlr imputs look like on the soundboard...but do they have labels???  AM I making sense?

[wsphansam]

Check with them ahead of time to find out what type of outputs they have on their board. They will have some combination of either xlr, rca, or 1/4" outs. You can get or make cables that will then fit the 1/8" imput of the JB3. Do you have any type of pre amp you'll be running in front of the JB3?

You might also want to look into attenuators which reduce the signal coming from the board. If you're just recording straight to the JB3, even with the internal gain all the way down the signal can still be too hot and ruin the recording.

 

and the other times they are going to be in bars

Do you mean that they won't be using a PA? Just like amps only and no mics for vocals?

[jasonw]

Thanks for the advice.... I am looking to get a UA-5....and a Hosa 276...  I havea  number of different cables and suc so I should be good for a board feed.

I ment that I was not sure about what they will use in the "bigger" bars.  If there was a house board or what not....I guess I just have to get out there and do it

[svenkid]

unless the board mix is going to be really good, Id suggest getting mics. lots of times with smaller bands the boards are run to make the room sound good, not necesarilly the recording levels coming out of it. thats one of the major reasons why I run mics.

[jasonw]

unless the board mix is going to be really good, Id suggest getting mics. lots of times with smaller bands the boards are run to make the room sound good, not necesarilly the recording levels coming out of it. thats one of the major reasons why I run mics.

YEha I plan on getting some mics.  Just dont have the $ at the moment. 

[Kush]

I used to patch out of the board whenever I went to see the local jam band but I usually ended up getting a mix that consisted mainly of vocals and drums. Usually the loudest things onstage were very low in the mix (guitars, bass). You must remember the sbd guy is mixing for the room, not tapers. Now I set-up my mics with the hyper caps XY onstage for the instruments and mix in some vocals with a board patch into my UA-5. I used to be satisfied with the lone sbd patch but now my recordings are SO much better since I made the switch.

[bdasilva]

for true... you are never going to be happy recording the FOH mix. Nobody (except Kenny with the Radiators) mixes for a complete soundboard out.  Look for a ua5 as a frontend... use any mics to reinforce the board sound.

[jasonw]

for true... you are never going to be happy recording the FOH mix. Nobody (except Kenny with the Radiators) mixes for a complete soundboard out.  Look for a ua5 as a frontend... use any mics to reinforce the board sound.

So run the UA-5 to the soundboard as well as a pair of mics to the UA-5?

[Kush]

for true... you are never going to be happy recording the FOH mix. Nobody (except Kenny with the Radiators) mixes for a complete soundboard out.  Look for a ua5 as a frontend... use any mics to reinforce the board sound.

So run the UA-5 to the soundboard as well as a pair of mics to the UA-5?

If you are on a limited budget to start with like I was, I'd suggest getting some patch cables plus adapters first and see how you like the results. Then you can upgrade as your budget allows. I have some miss. patching stuff laying around collecting dust that you are welcome to have for free, send me a PM. This will get you started for next to nothing. And to answer your original question, the outputs on the sbd are usually labeled Tape Out or something of that nature.

[wsphansam]

So run the UA-5 to the soundboard as well as a pair of mics to the UA-5?

Yes, this is called a matrix. It's usually a soundboard feed plus a mic feed. One of the nice things about the UA-5 is that it allows you to do a matrix "on the fly" meaning having both the sbd feed and mic feed going into the UA-5 at the same time. Usually with the mics going XLR in and the board feed going RCA in.

[itook2much]

I used to patch out of the board whenever I went to see the local jam band but I usually ended up getting a mix that consisted mainly of vocals and drums. Usually the loudest things onstage were very low in the mix (guitars, bass).

That was almost always the case when I was playing.  I don't think I ever got a really good tape off the board.  In  a really big club, maybe one time, but usually it's all vocals & drums as you said.

Of course, I liked to play loud, so some tapes the only guitar is bleed from the vocal & drum mics.