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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: HealthCov Chris on July 28, 2017, 06:11:16 PM
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Is it me, or do the ck61's just sound better than the 63's?! I was so excited to get the ck63's, but for most every application I have used them both for (inside and out) the 61's offer much broader sound quality without over emphasizing the crowd. The 63's sound a bit flat to me. I have yet to find an application that I prefer the 63's for. Although, I never taper farther than 65ft away from stage.
I'll try them tonight in a Mid-sized venue that has typically boomy features. Hopefully they will justify their price tag...
Just venting
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Here's an AC I did with the 63's that makes a pretty good case for them.
https://archive.org/details/acollective2016-11-02.t5
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I've ran AKG CK63's and Gefell M21 Hypers along side of Gefell M20 and Milab VM-44 Link Cards...Cards just seem to have a bit more bass...which can be good or bad depending on the room...
Outdoors and in great sounding rooms (in the sweet spot) I'd feel confident to run Cards exclusively...in rooms/situations I'm not sure of I'll run both Hyper and Cards...sometimes the Hyper's win and sometimes they don't.
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I run both 99% of the time.
For me personally, the 63 win out 75% of the time as far as which one I listen to over and over.
In most cases I am recording shows where the crowd is loud and so the 63 seem to help with cutting that out too. At least cutting out the crowd behind me which in the clubs I do that's where they are
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Same show...same stand...Wife and I had different opinions...so I posted both
Cards
https://archive.org/details/nm2016-12-13.MilabVM44
Hypers
https://archive.org/details/nm2016-12-13.Gefell_NBob_Aerco
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For me personally, the 63 win out 75% of the time as far as which one I listen to over and over.
In most cases I am recording shows where the crowd is loud and so the 63 seem to help with cutting that out too. At least cutting out the crowd behind me which in the clubs I do that's where they are
This!
Soundwise, the difference is not huge. Not more than you can fix in post if necessary.
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I just spent last weekend running my ck63's as center x/y and ca-14 omni's with 3ft split at Homegrown on the River music festival. While I am just getting into the processing, I think I can hear the difference from when I ran the same setup with the ck61's at last festival. It appears that the 63's may provide a tighter sound that works well in conjunction with the split omni's. I am hopeful to find a clear difference and better understand which one suites which occasion.
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I typically like the cards better...I run 481's > FP24. I really like the combo.
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I just spent last weekend running my ck63's as center x/y and ca-14 omni's with 3ft split at Homegrown on the River music festival. While I am just getting into the processing, I think I can hear the difference from when I ran the same setup with the ck61's at last festival. It appears that the 63's may provide a tighter sound that works well in conjunction with the split omni's. I am hopeful to find a clear difference and better understand which one suites which occasion.
Good to hear your thoughts on this, and your conclusions based on that comparison. My take is that when combined with the omnis, the more directional center pair often works best. Sort of a shared workload with each mic pair contributing what it does best, covering for the deficits of the other pair in turn. Increased pattern diversity providing strength in unison.
At the same time, when used as a single pair, and in the appropriate situation, cardioids may sound better as they are something of a middle-ground compromise between the two extremes. As cardioids, they have somewhat more omni component in them.