Topic: New Taper

[DMBprez]

How much can I get one of those for?

I'm 17, my budget is tight at this point.



Thanks so much for all of your help btw, Terry, Sven, Run. 

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

And later on I can buy the Edirol and add it in, correct?

yes and then dumb the power supply

"dump" the power supply.  He means you can replace the Phantom Power unit with the UA5 as the UA5 also provides Phantom Power.  I use the UA5.  If you look in my signature, you can see I use ADK TLs (mics) > UA5 (phantom, preamp, AD) > JB3 (recorder). 

The most common taping rig today is probably the Studio Projects C4 > UA5 > JB3.

The Lunatec V3 is awesome!!! and about $1000.


Terry

[DMBprez]

Hahahaha, the Lunatec is definetly out of the question at this point. The Edirol will be a Christmas addition to my Rig.

[DMBprez]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Superlux-SMKH8K-Stereo-Matched-Condensers-KIT_W0QQitemZ260016184018QQihZ016QQcategoryZ41466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How can I connect these mics to this stand? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/DYNATRAN-PRO-PHOTO-STUDIO-LIGHT-STAND-SUPPORT-AS-9110_W0QQitemZ200015543384QQihZ010QQcategoryZ30080QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone know of an adapter?

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Superlux-SMKH8K-Stereo-Matched-Condensers-KIT_W0QQitemZ260016184018QQihZ016QQcategoryZ41466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How can I connect these mics to this stand? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/DYNATRAN-PRO-PHOTO-STUDIO-LIGHT-STAND-SUPPORT-AS-9110_W0QQitemZ200015543384QQihZ010QQcategoryZ30080QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone know of an adapter?

Google search of "mic thread adapter" revealed this:
http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=215&off=2&sort=prod

What kind of adapter depends on the threading that comes with the light stand you buy.  There are several different kinds.

Terry

[DMBprez]

Can you not tell the type of threading by the link I provided? 

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

Can you not tell the type of threading by the link I provided? 

No, I would assume (which is generally bad) that it is 5/8" camera threading from the image in the Specifications.

Contact the seller and ask them.

Terry

[DMBprez]

Yes, it is.  I can get a clamp right?

Or is there hope for me to get an adaptor?

[anodyne33]

Yes, it is.  I can get a clamp right?

Or is there hope for me to get an adaptor?

I have two of the Amvona stands. One of them has a 1/4" thread on the top and I have an adaptor that goes from that to 5/8" (which is typical microphone stand size) and the other has no thread. It looks like the one you got has no thread. On that one you can either use one of these "stand fittings" (scroll down) http://www.micsupply.com/standaccessories.htm or just get it over with and go with a clamp. I like the clamp idea because you will be able to use it all the time regardless of whether you bring a stand or not. I (as well as many other people here) suggest the windtech mpc10

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=GvDG3G7zp1!1119361806?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=298908&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

By the way, if you do have a stand with threads on the top of it, PM me, I can fix you up.

[run_run_run]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Superlux-SMKH8K-Stereo-Matched-Condensers-KIT_W0QQitemZ260016184018QQihZ016QQcategoryZ41466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How can I connect these mics to this stand? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/DYNATRAN-PRO-PHOTO-STUDIO-LIGHT-STAND-SUPPORT-AS-9110_W0QQitemZ200015543384QQihZ010QQcategoryZ30080QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone know of an adapter?

Google search of "mic thread adapter" revealed this:
http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=215&off=2&sort=prod

What kind of adapter depends on the threading that comes with the light stand you buy.  There are several different kinds.

Terry

I have that stand, its just a 5/8 stud. I went with a clamp.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

This guy has a few different adapters:  http://www.equipmentemporium.com/MicSupport.htm

A clamp will come in handy too...

Terry

[SparkE!]

the jb3 can do an a>d 

it can, but not very well. 

Actually, the A/D on the JB3 has been shown to be on par (actually slightly better) than the one in a Sony PCM-M1.  The front end line input amps have less distortion than the front end of a PCM-M1, too, and are less likely to brickwall on you.  I don't know why people are always bashing the JB3's A/D converter.  It works great.  It's just not as good as you can do with a properly modified SBM-1 or a AD20 or a UA-5 or a V3 or a minime, etc...  When you go to one of those, you'll see a modest improvement in S/N, provided that you set your levels correctly.  Still, you should expect better than 90 dB S/N using the JB3 alone.  It does a surprisingly good job on its own.

FYI, I own several UA-5's and I consider them to be the sweet spot in the price/performance curve for live recording equipment.  I generally run a set of SMK-H8K's into one UA-5 > optical > JB3 and a SBD feed to another UA-5 > optical > JB3 and mix the recordings in post.  I'm fortunate to own two UA-5's that have very little unit-to-unit timing skew.

[Cheesecadet]

This is my rig and I am stoked with the results!

Studio Projects C4's     $260
15' Canare Star Quads     $30
Denecke PS-2     $80
Audio Technica CP8201 (Lo Z > Hi Z) Line Transformers     $30
Hosa YMP-137 (For AUD Recordings)     $5
Hosa YXF-247  (For SBD Recordings)     $5
Sony PCM-M1 DAT Recorder     ($300 (4 Years Ago)

I have pulled some great recordings with this rig!  That's only $610 for my rige.  Knock another $100 off if you went with a JB3 for around $510.

Here is a link to a show I recently recorded with this rig:

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=27835

Good luck!

Ryan

[ScottT]

Can I just run:


H8k's->2x XLR Cables->Phantom Supply-> JB3?

Yes, but no.  The signal level won't be very strong and you can only get so much gain from the JB3.  You can boost the levels on your computer later, but it's not the same.  For a while I ran Superlux SMK-H8K's> XLR cables> ART Phantom II> Audio Technica CP8201 line transformers (see Cheesecadet's post above)> JB3 and still wasn't satisfied with the signal unless it was a really loud show.

FYI - those line transformers definitely add some much needed gain (it's a fixed amount) and they're very affordable ($30), but I quickly discovered that it wasn't enough and moved to the UA-5.  Find a stock UA-5 and have it modd'ed by Busman2 (a member here) - I can't recommend that enough!

I've made decent tapes with my Luxes and a couple that are GREAT, but I've got the bug to upgrade - and unforunately no budget to back that up!  A few months ago I scored a pair of AT853's from eBay for a reasonable price.  I'm VERY pleased with their sound and they're compact enough for unobtrusive (stealth) recording.  Stealth use and a variety of capsulesare definitely some things to consider if you haven't already pulled the trigger on the Superluxes.  I know there is a hypercard cap for the Superluxes, but they cost almost as much as the entire mic set!  For that price you might as well get the Studio Projects C4's....

[Cheesecadet]

As far as the line transformers go...

Here's my experience, I run the C4's > PS-2 > AT CP8201 > M1 (Line In)

I have never had a problem not having enough gain using the transformers. 
I run line-In into my M1 and the record volume on my M1 is Around 5 - 51/2 out of 10 on the dial.

Another bit of info...

My PS-2 will run for about 61/2 - 7 hours on 1 - Duracell 9v battery running my C4's.  This is a relatively cheap rig that pulls great tapes!

For what it's worth... =^)

Ryan