Topic: New Zoom?

[digifish_music]

Also, the NT1-A is probably not the best test microphone because it has such low noise to begin with. 

...isn't that exactly what you want, to hear the noise of the recorder, not the mics?

digifish

[gossling]

...isn't that exactly what you want, to hear the noise of the recorder, not the mics?

digifish

True.  I guess I was thinking that the noise of the sample (or lack thereof) may be misleading as the 5.5dB self-noise of the NT1-A is not the most realistic figure for the average microphone.

[digifish_music]

Video...

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/01/30/wnamm09-zoom-h4n-4-track-to-go/

[heyitsmejess]

3 meter remote included.

didnt exactly answer my big question....he dosent say that you can use 4 different inputs (i.e. sbd and your own mics).

he does mention the mic input on the back tho.

[willndmb]

i get the impression that you can use the xlr 1/4 combo jack OR the 1/8 not both and the same time

[heyitsmejess]

he talks about the xlr-1/4" combo and the internal mics, then he talks about the combo inputs again, then mentions the 1/8" jack on the bottom.  he dosent say that you cant use the combo jacks and the 1/8" jack together, or that you can only use 1 of the other only with the internal mics.

guess i'll need to wait till it comes out and someone has it in hand.

[(Evan)]

It looks like it doesn't have a 1/8" line input. Whats up with that??

[digifish_music]

It looks like it doesn't have a 1/8" line input. Whats up with that??

I think the one on the back is a line/mic input.

[(Evan)]

So the 1/8th doesn't go through the preamp then? Or is it switchable??

[(Evan)]

I just ordered a PCM-D50 yesterday...and now I'm wondering if I should have waiting for this instead

[guysonic]

I just ordered a PCM-D50 yesterday...and now I'm wondering if I should have waiting for this instead

The D50 is a very well engineered deck that builds on Sony's refined knowledge of portable recording devices, so you are buying a solid instrument with the Sony. 

On the other hand, Zoom seems mostly about features and gimmicks with a legacy of very cheap low performance recording devices with too many shortcomings in the audio input ability and quality department for my money. 

However, with each new Zoom model, it's worth doing a bench test for input range/audio quality performance seeing if they've yet to learn about refining their audio products as we keep hoping.

[(Evan)]

Welp I emailed Samson Tech...and they said that the new Zoom does NOT have a Line In, and the mic in can not double as one.

[flintstone]

No Line In? 

The docs for the original H4 say "You can also use the H4's Hi-Z rated phone inputs for direct connection of guitars, bass, or any other line-input device."   The page in the current Zoom catalog that talks about the H4n says, "Hi-Z inputs for recording guitar, bass or line input device."

See also this description with photo
http://techrepublic.com.com/2346-1035_11-261102-2.html

One way Zoom thinks people will use this four channel recorder is to receive signals from an instrument or mixer via the combo XLR/TRS jacks, while recording vocals through the built-in mics.  This would require the XLR/TRS to handle a line level input signal.

I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks to verify.

Flintstone

[(Evan)]

I'm talking about 1/8" line inputs.

[gossling]

I'm talking about 1/8" line inputs.

Keep in mind you can easily split a 1/8" stereo line input to two mono 1/4" line-in connectors.  In my opinion, the durability gained with the 1/4" inputs is well worth the minor inconvenience of an adapter.  Then again, your purposes may require the quick and easy 1/8" line input connector.