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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2004, 11:01:52 PM »
FYI, I haven't had any grief with my Tosh Drives.
Although I can see how any HD would be sensitive to high levels of shock,
I can't image hanging out in a space that loud or unstable.

When you talk to Fostex, tell them that you are considering sucking the fluid out of the LCD,
against the warning in the manual, and ask what could happen to you or why you might do it.

Everyone I ask hasn't a clue as to why they put that warning in there.    ;D


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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2004, 10:34:42 AM »
The solution I came up with, and I apologize for not posting it I was in a hurry at the time, was to buy dampening sound absorbing material off of ebay.  It is like a rubber substance with an adhesive side and a regular side.  I installed it into a sonicase, as that is what I am using these days, and neatly fit it to the exact size of the fr-2 with a little room to spare on each side.  I then took the unit to the local bar and subjected it to the same sound levels as before and everything was peachy.  As olong as the unit isn't vibrating, it is fine.  This issue does not rear it's ugly head at all when taping from a distance, but say in a bar where you are 8 feet from the soundsource/stage, it certainly becomes an issue.  I also find that vibration of the unit is sibstantially reduced by running the unit vertical as opposed to horizontal, and also not on any structure, but rather just on the ground.  I don't have a good refrence of actual decibel levels where this occurs, and I apologize about that.   Any more questions?

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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2004, 08:00:57 PM »
Thanks for the info !
No need to aplogize.

Glad that you've come up with a solution that works for you.  :)

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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2004, 03:43:13 AM »
Don't buy an FR2 until you can check out the 722.  I've had the opportunity to run the 744 a few times now and am fully impressed with it.   You can power it off of inexpensive camcorder batteries, the last one I use will power it for 6 hours.   I've used for for a local "Americana" band, Harmonious Thunk, a couple Supersuckers shows and stealthed Dylan with it last week.  Also did part of a DBT show, but ran out of power. Until the Dylan show, I ran 16bit 44.1 (for patching reasons), but went for the gusto at Dylan and did 24bit 192k, sounds amazing.   I don't have a way to transfer the 24bit at the moment (no firewire or soundcard that will take the high rate), but should have this resolved soon and will post samples when I can. 
On a side note, the headphone amp kicks ass.....loud enough to actually hear the headphones over the PA with mid range headphones.   
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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2004, 03:53:28 AM »
Don't buy an FR2 until you can check out the 722.  I've had the opportunity to run the 744 a few times now and am fully impressed with it.   You can power it off of inexpensive camcorder batteries, the last one I use will power it for 6 hours.   I've used for for a local "Americana" band, Harmonious Thunk, a couple Supersuckers shows and stealthed Dylan with it last week.  Also did part of a DBT show, but ran out of power. Until the Dylan show, I ran 16bit 44.1 (for patching reasons), but went for the gusto at Dylan and did 24bit 192k, sounds amazing.   I don't have a way to transfer the 24bit at the moment (no firewire or soundcard that will take the high rate), but should have this resolved soon and will post samples when I can. 
On a side note, the headphone amp kicks ass.....loud enough to actually hear the headphones over the PA with mid range headphones.   
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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2004, 06:08:16 PM »
who did you get a 744 to demo from?  i thought the 744s werent ready even to demo yet... but i could be totally wrong

Don't buy an FR2 until you can check out the 722.  I've had the opportunity to run the 744 a few times now and am fully impressed with it.   You can power it off of inexpensive camcorder batteries, the last one I use will power it for 6 hours.   I've used for for a local "Americana" band, Harmonious Thunk, a couple Supersuckers shows and stealthed Dylan with it last week.  Also did part of a DBT show, but ran out of power. Until the Dylan show, I ran 16bit 44.1 (for patching reasons), but went for the gusto at Dylan and did 24bit 192k, sounds amazing.   I don't have a way to transfer the 24bit at the moment (no firewire or soundcard that will take the high rate), but should have this resolved soon and will post samples when I can. 
On a side note, the headphone amp kicks ass.....loud enough to actually hear the headphones over the PA with mid range headphones.   
Chapper

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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2004, 06:00:29 AM »
who did you get a 744 to demo from?  i thought the 744s werent ready even to demo yet... but i could be totally wrong



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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2004, 02:22:14 AM »
Yep...what John said.  It's still in the beta stage, still not 100% or ready for demo status, but our findings have gone to SD and are being considered in the updates that supposed to be coming soon.   I think Marc will be putting up a sample of the recent Fillmore Claypool show, he ran it with some MK41's, sounds great.   
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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2004, 06:29:23 AM »
Don't buy an FR2 until you can check out the 722. 

You'll have to wait a while. The 744T is first to hit the streets and most of the first units are going to film sound recordist/engineers. The 722 isn't expected until Spring (I suppose that's not too bad), so folks will have a wait a bit for that unit.

I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens to archive.org once the 722 and 744T hit the street. I expect a whole lot more 24-bit shows appearing up there.

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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2004, 08:41:54 AM »
Don't buy an FR2 until you can check out the 722. 

The 722 isn't expected until Spring (I suppose that's not too bad),

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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2004, 10:07:28 AM »

When did you hear this?


Just this week after folks returned from AES in CA.

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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2004, 10:40:32 AM »
SPRING?  damn.  that probably means august.  which means september.  which means november. which means...


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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2004, 11:09:41 AM »
Anyone get a preliminary price on the R-4?
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2004, 11:12:12 AM »
Anyone get a preliminary price on the R-4?

$1595 expected street price.
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Re: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722
« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2004, 12:16:46 PM »
Sound Devices strikes again!!!!!!!
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