Topic: Edirol R-4

[L Ron Hoover]

But if you go mic/line-in that shouldn't be a problem though, right? Its only a problem if you want to run an outboard A/D. right?

I'd imagine so. I'm sure a lot of people are hoping they could run MME or V3 dig- out into this

[wbrisette]

Any takers on price? The closest shipping competitor with 4 microphone inputs is the Zaxcom Deva 5 at about 12 000 USD. The closest vaporware competitor is the Zaxcom Fusion at about 5 000.

Actually not true. Zaxcom Deva II, which has been available for about 3 years now. You can currently pick one up "factory refurbished" for 5K (I did just this earlier this week). It has 4 phantom powered inputs, but for "current" models you are correct.

Wayne

[wbrisette]

Understanding that the R-4 isn't targeted at us, specifically, as an audience, I have a tough time in general - taking into account other target markets - WTF they were thinking by including the following:

• Built-in Non-Directional Mics
• Five High-Quality Effects
• Waveform Editing
• Built-In Stereo Speakers

This unit really is targeted specifically to the ENG crowd and also the local band crowd. For the news folks this unit is exactly what they were looking for, and you're right it's not designed for us.

Wayne

[Brian Skalinder]

This unit really is targeted specifically to the ENG crowd and also the local band crowd. For the news folks this unit is exactly what they were looking for, and you're right it's not designed for us.

The ENG crowd really wants the features I listed?  I guess I'm out of touch.

[Rick]

But if you go mic/line-in that shouldn't be a problem though, right? Its only a problem if you want to run an outboard A/D. right?

I'd imagine so. I'm sure a lot of people are hoping they could run MME or V3 dig- out into this

Your probably right. I would want to do Schoeps MK4 > Sonosax SX-M2/LS2 > Edirol R-4 @ 24/96 though 

[Flarnet]

They way I'm reading the block diagram you cannot bypass the DSP. Look at the limiters, THEY can be totally bypassed, but the signal invariably passes through the DSP. The switch by the DSP is only there to let you know that you can run the effects on a live feed. The degree to witch a broschure block diagram can be taken as gospel is perhaps the most interesting question...

And I forgot to mention the Fostex PD-6 as well, quite a bit cheaper than the Deva 5. And the Deva 2 is discontinued, plus it only does 48k which doesn't exactly feel 2004 to me.

[Thomas]

I didn't read all the way through all of the posts so this may be here already.


At the bottom of the news item about the R4 on edirols site it says that they will be shipping in Feb of 2005.

[Popmarter]

It's there!!

http://www.edirol.com/


Now, where is R2 and R3???

[wbrisette]

This unit really is targeted specifically to the ENG crowd and also the local band crowd. For the news folks this unit is exactly what they were looking for, and you're right it's not designed for us.

The ENG crowd really wants the features I listed?  I guess I'm out of touch.

The idea is to have the reporter carry one of these or the R-1 and basically have the news bites all set and ready to go ... (ie cut out the post production step of making the sound bite itself). That's one of the reasons for the wave editor. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but it saves production money and time, which is the goal. Now, four channels is overkill and I suspect the R-1 will be used more often in this role, but that's is why they put the mics in the units.

Wayne

[nickgregory]

interesting view posted by Doug on Oade:

"No modern PCM recorder is bit accurate, no over sampling A/D converter can possibly be bit accurate, nature of the beast ! You must go DSD if you want all the data.
Is the digital input bit accurate ? Depends on the design, if it is able to use the recovered clock from the dig in for the A/D converter, it could be. Odds are the digi in is a resampler on any 4 channel box that has both analog and digi ins that will stay in sync with each other. If it does resample, the more crucial question is will the digi out pass the original data and clock or the resampled data. I do not mind a HQ resampler for a mastering device but if it resamples within a daisy chain, I would not want to be the last guy in that chain.
peace ..>Doug "

[Thomas]

Price tentatively set at $1899.00.

  I was hoping it would be cheaper.

[Rick]

Price tentatively set at $1899.00.

  I was hoping it would be cheaper.

Well that blows

[Brian Skalinder]

Price tentatively set at $1899.00.

Ouch. Not terribly surprised that I'll have to continue to wait for an inexpensive 24-bit HD recorder without all the bells and whistles. I have a sneaking suspicion I'll never see one and will have to eventually bite the bullet on one of the all-on-one boxes and simply not use the other features (assuming I continue to loooove my V3 as pre/ADC).

[John Kelly]

Price tentatively set at $1899.00.

  I was hoping it would be cheaper.

I was thinking no more than a grand.  Guess I was way off.

Stupid Edirol...  Getting my hopes up.  I really should've known better.

[Ed.]

isn't the msrp for the ua-5 like $500+ tho, i can't remember.