Author Topic: Edirol R-09 Release Information -ptII (Read 105134 times)

SunWizard · « **Reply #75 on:** July 23, 2006, 05:47:06 PM »

Quote from: leehookem on July 23, 2006, 05:31:31 PM

R09 vs AKG 481 > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671

the 481s were DFC clamped at 10'
the R09 was on the drink rail 2' ROC at 4'

track 1 R09 http://www.sendspace.com/file/ktdmci
track 2 AKG 481 > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671 http://www.sendspace.com/file/4vsqmx

Was that R-09 with the internal mics or your AT853s? I doubt many tapers will use the internals except for quick and dirty stuff, I know I won't use them much based on my tests.

leehookem · « **Reply #76 on:** July 23, 2006, 05:50:03 PM »

this is with the internals. just the R09. I had the input level on 1.

Rick · « **Reply #77 on:** July 23, 2006, 06:06:48 PM »

On Weds I'm going to try

MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 (XLR Out) > iRiver H120 (-6db)
vs.
MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 (3.5mm Out) > Edirol R-09

I'm going to run the iRiver at -6db cause the XLRs out on the Sax are +6db compared to the 3.5MM I'll post my results

Rick

VA_TAPER · « **Reply #78 on:** July 23, 2006, 09:43:35 PM »

Quote from: Rick on July 23, 2006, 06:06:48 PM

On Weds I'm going to try

MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 (XLR Out) > iRiver H120 (-6db)
vs.
MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 (3.5mm Out) > Edirol R-09

I'm going to run the iRiver at -6db cause the XLRs out on the Sax are +6db compared to the 3.5MM I'll post my results

Rick

I'd suggest using a headphone splitter for this insted of XLR and 3.5mm go 3.5mm to splitter to both units otherwise you'll have an impedence mismatch on the iriver and if you use a transformer to correctly match the impedence the transformer will have a big impact of the sound (could be good or bad).

my $.02 if you want to get an accurate comp

peace, chris

drewloo · « **Reply #79 on:** July 24, 2006, 07:57:48 AM »

Quote from: VA_TAPER on July 23, 2006, 09:43:35 PM

Quote from: Rick on July 23, 2006, 06:06:48 PM
On Weds I'm going to try

MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 (XLR Out) > iRiver H120 (-6db)
vs.
MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 (3.5mm Out) > Edirol R-09

I'm going to run the iRiver at -6db cause the XLRs out on the Sax are +6db compared to the 3.5MM I'll post my results

Rick

I'd suggest using a headphone splitter for this insted of XLR and 3.5mm go 3.5mm to splitter to both units otherwise you'll have an impedence mismatch on the iriver and if you use a transformer to correctly match the impedence the transformer will have a big impact of the sound (could be good or bad).

my $.02 if you want to get an accurate comp

peace, chris

Yeah, that's what I ended up doing last week at Soulive--used a headphone splitter out of the mp-2 and ran one strait to the r09 and the other to a sbm-1>jb3. It worked great.

kuuan · « **Reply #80 on:** July 24, 2006, 08:03:22 AM »

Quote from: drewloo on July 24, 2006, 07:57:48 AM

Yeah, that's what I ended up doing last week at Soulive--used a headphone splitter out of the mp-2 and ran one strait to the r09 and the other to a sbm-1>jb3. It worked great.

may I ask if you noticed a difference in the quality of the two recordings?

drewloo · « **Reply #81 on:** July 24, 2006, 10:32:07 AM »

Quote from: kuuan on July 24, 2006, 08:03:22 AM

Quote from: drewloo on July 24, 2006, 07:57:48 AM
Yeah, that's what I ended up doing last week at Soulive--used a headphone splitter out of the mp-2 and ran one strait to the r09 and the other to a sbm-1>jb3. It worked great.

may I ask if you noticed a difference in the quality of the two recordings?

Both were recorded at 16bit. The modsbm1 had a more pleasant bottom end, but that's no suprise I don't think. I thought the r-09 sounded great, but the bottom end sounded a little bit sloppy sometimes compared to the modsbm1. The modsbm1 just seemed a little bit easier to listen to. FWIW, I taped Joe Bonamassa a few days ago w/ different mics going mp-2>r-09 at 24bit and it sounds much nicer to my ears than the 16bit mp-2>r-09 soulive.

leehookem · « **Reply #82 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:08:21 AM »

So Drew, how did the Bonamassa turn out? any problems with the lack of windscreens?

it-goes-to-eleven · « **Reply #83 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:13:39 AM »

After several recordings I have to wonder whether the r09 has a little bass rolloff built into the line input..

drewloo · « **Reply #84 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:22:03 AM »

Quote from: leehookem on July 24, 2006, 11:08:21 AM

So Drew, how did the Bonamassa turn out? any problems with the lack of windscreens?

Not that I have heard so far, but I need to listen to the acoustic parts closer. I think I ran low enough to avoid most of the a/c. Just waiting for the neighbor to head to work & then I can give it a nice critical listen.

Rick · « **Reply #85 on:** July 24, 2006, 06:49:35 PM »

Some pics of R-09 vs H120 ...

and SX-M2/LS2 > R-09

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=68904

Scuba Jeremy · « **Reply #86 on:** July 25, 2006, 04:05:39 AM »

Quote from: leehookem on July 23, 2006, 05:31:31 PM

R09 vs AKG 481 > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
James Speer Band
"View"

the 481s were DFC clamped at 10'
the R09 was on the drink rail 2' ROC at 4'

I'm actually really impressed with the built in mics. They're not perfect, but as stated earlier, great for the quick and dirty jobs. What I'm really excited about is the idea of running this badboy in the hotel stops between tour stops, when the guys I archive bust out the acoustics and just start making shit up. So much faster than saying "Hey guys, give me like five minutes to boot up the laptop and find the battery for my UA5...."

leehookem · « **Reply #87 on:** July 25, 2006, 10:48:55 AM »

exactly. They do the job in a pinch.

I just finished a little battery test of my own. Powerex 2500 mAh. I got 9 hours of record time. The low battery indicator came on about the 8:50 mark, so there was still a few minutes left. I recorded at 64 kbps .

Rick · « **Reply #88 on:** July 25, 2006, 10:53:30 AM »

Quote from: leehookem on July 25, 2006, 10:48:55 AM

I just finished a little battery test of my own. Powerex 2500 mAh. I got 9 hours of record time. The low battery indicator came on about the 8:50 mark, so there was still a few minutes left. I recorded at 64 kbps .

So even the if your running 16/41 the SD (4GB) card will run out way before the batteries do. Pretty nice. Add another 4GB card and another set of AA and your set for a festival.... At least for one or two days... Maybe I should sell my H120 and get another 4GB card

enaudible · « **Reply #89 on:** July 25, 2006, 11:29:42 AM »

Don't get rid of the H120 just yet. I posted a question out there if anyone had tried a USB On-the-Go hook-up, which is making its way into the main scene with portable devices. I think I will be tracking down this puppy - http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=245923 - to try running off R-09 file onto my H340. Also, Macally makes a drive that just does a full disk copy straight to a portable drive with a push of a button, into serial folders so I don't think you would have to worry about the repeated file names. You could simulate that by preloading some empty subdirectories on your H120 and then using the Belkin to drag over the files, confirm on the H120, and then delete from the R-09. The Belkin is also battery powered... Seems like there are some good portable mass storage options out there. I love the idea of doing this with my H340, because then you have playback right there on your MP3 drive

Anyone have any thoughts or experience with these things? I ran across trying to figure out how to hook my R-09 to my H340, with no TypeB mini to TypeB mini cables in sight...