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Neumann KM86 questions
« on: October 01, 2004, 04:43:54 PM »
Anyone have any experience with these? Would they make for good field recording mics? They have dual KM84 caps in each mic body and are switchable, omni, card and figure 8. That's about all I know.
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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2004, 06:01:07 PM »
i bet they'll sound awesome 8)
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2004, 06:08:37 PM »
i bet they'll sound awesome 8)

Of course they will...they're Neumanns  ;)
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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 06:17:22 PM »
Think I have a few spring '90 nassau Dead shows that Jim Wise recorded with these (probably run as spaced cards and pointing at stacks, fob), recorded with a d5 -- sound real nice but probably not the truest test of their sound.

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2004, 06:25:28 PM »
Seems like because of the fact they have 2 caps in each body that they are difficult to arrange in a pattern for stereo recording. According to others who have used them, figure 8 is the best for them. I guess they are more of a vocal mic.

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2004, 06:32:55 PM »
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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 06:35:27 PM »
I found a thread about them on another site.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/21635/0#msg_21635

Some shows are on the Music Archives (3) Grateful Dead and (1) Steve Kimock for download.

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2004, 06:42:41 PM »
Seems like because of the fact they have 2 caps in each body that they are difficult to arrange in a pattern for stereo recording. According to others who have used them, figure 8 is the best for them. I guess they are more of a vocal mic.

Don't see why aiming them would be a problem, you'd just need to treat 'em like any other side address mic -- the ability to run 'em in blumlein or m/s configuration would be quite cool.

here are some fotos (and Neumann's description which suggests they are NOT near-field mics) http://www.vintageloop.com/Neumann_KM86.html
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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2004, 06:46:15 PM »
Nice thread Wiggler. What 3 GD shows in what year in the archive? Like to see what mic patterns were used.

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2004, 06:47:46 PM »
So, maybe treat 'em like 4V's?

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2004, 06:50:32 PM »
Exactly! (or like mini u87s)

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2004, 06:57:36 PM »
Nice! 4V's with 3 patterns! Can I be on both teams.

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2004, 07:43:13 PM »
those things look sweet!
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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2004, 08:06:09 PM »
Nice thread Wiggler. What 3 GD shows in what year in the archive? Like to see what mic patterns were used.

 It looks like they turned out to be KM84 shows not Km86, I could not find any KM86 shows on the Archive.
They do look nice.

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Re: Neumann KM86 questions
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2004, 09:17:13 PM »
one problem i could see is that they are 40-40k rather than 20-40k... that bass might pose some problem

 

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