Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)

[Twenty8]

Just joined the M10 crew earlier this month.

Ran to the internal memory with 853 subcards > soundpro box.  Next using it as a bit box from the out of my 680 during Phish OB this weekend.

Any approved memory card list floating around before I start scouring the site?

A bit box is a deck that takes a digital signal from a preamp or other device, hence the name bit box. It adds nothing, it just takes and holds the bits from a non-recorder. The Sony M10 does not take a digital signal, it only takes an analog signal, so it cannot be used as a bit box.

I see.  I figured people were using small decks from the out of their large deck and calling it a "bit box".  My bad.  Hashtag newbie mistake.

[yug du nord]

Just joined the M10 crew earlier this month.

Ran to the internal memory with 853 subcards > soundpro box.  Next using it as a bit box from the out of my 680 during Phish OB this weekend.
 
Any approved memory card list floating around before I start scouring the site? 

A bit box is a deck that takes a digital signal from a preamp or other device, hence the name bit box. It adds nothing, it just takes and holds the bits from a non-recorder. The Sony M10 does not take a digital signal, it only takes an analog signal, so it cannot be used as a bit box.

Hey dallman..  hope you are well!!
For the sake of fun … there are some recorders that have digital outputs that can feed another recorder’s digital input.
But the M10 is not one of them.
Miss ya man..   

[dallman]

Just joined the M10 crew earlier this month.

Ran to the internal memory with 853 subcards > soundpro box.  Next using it as a bit box from the out of my 680 during Phish OB this weekend.

Any approved memory card list floating around before I start scouring the site?

A bit box is a deck that takes a digital signal from a preamp or other device, hence the name bit box. It adds nothing, it just takes and holds the bits from a non-recorder. The Sony M10 does not take a digital signal, it only takes an analog signal, so it cannot be used as a bit box.

I see.  I figured people were using small decks from the out of their large deck and calling it a "bit box".  My bad.  Hashtag newbie mistake.

That's ok, I'm still learning and I made my first recording in 1971. 

Yug,
I sure hope to see you this summer as things open up again!! I miss you too.

[Gaerlind]

Today i decided to disassemble one of my M10 to clean it of dust.
This is its microphone capsule.



Looks something wellknown, isn't so?



Yes!
Its PRIMO EM 172 capsule - M10 internal microphones.
https://fr.audiofanzine.com/capsule-microphone/primo/em-172/

[rastasean]

Makes me wonder what mics the other Sony recorders have - A10, D10, D100, D50.

Does your recorder suffer from needing to reset the time/date on each power on? If so, have you seen some kind of internal battery in the unit?

[Gaerlind]

I have two M10. One i bought as new a lot of years ago - it works excellent.
The second i bought used - is suffers from needing to set the time/date each time when i power it on.
I bought new internal batteries and now awaiting for mail. Will try to fix this problem.

By the way - one day i was need to record 4 days non-stop and connected an external power to recorder. About 100 hours of non-stop recording.
After that the date/time problem disappeared for 2 days. Later problem returned back...

[vanark]

I have two M10. One i bought as new a lot of years ago - it works excellent.
The second i bought used - is suffers from needing to set the time/date each time when i power it on.
I bought new internal batteries and now awaiting for mail. Will try to fix this problem.

By the way - one day i was need to record 4 days non-stop and connected an external power to recorder. About 100 hours of non-stop recording.
After that the date/time problem disappeared for 2 days. Later problem returned back...

I've only seen this happen when the AA batteries are removed for more than a few days.

[rastasean]

> I've only seen this happen when the AA batteries are removed for more than a few days.

I thought the same, but mine have had batteries in them constantly and lost the clock time.

They haven't gotten much use, but even if i: power them on, set time/date, short recording, leave for auto power off and turn back on a few days later, the clock needs to be set again.

[aaronji]

There are tons of posts regarding the clock issue, including workarounds and other solutions. It might take some searching, but it is all here somewhere.

There have also been a number of posts, stretching back many years, stating that the M10 mics appear (and test) similar to the Primo caps. I think if you search, you can probably also find which caps were used in at least some of the other Sony recorders (or a best guess anyway).

[morst]

There are tons of posts regarding the clock issue, including workarounds and other solutions. It might take some searching, but it is all here somewhere.

Leave the deck powered ON for a couple days and it will charge up the clock battery.

[RyanJ]

There are tons of posts regarding the clock issue, including workarounds and other solutions. It might take some searching, but it is all here somewhere.

Leave the deck powered ON for a couple days and it will charge up the clock battery.

*MIND BLOWN*

[morst]

There are tons of posts regarding the clock issue, including workarounds and other solutions. It might take some searching, but it is all here somewhere.

Leave the deck powered ON for a couple days and it will charge up the clock battery.

*MIND BLOWN*

Yeah it took us quite a bit of time to figure that one out. Someone can look at the thread and tell us how long...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Gaerlind]

There are tons of posts regarding the clock issue, including workarounds and other solutions. It might take some searching, but it is all here somewhere.

By the way!

I have one more M10 and D50 - both doesn't powers on. It's not due internal battery.
What it can be? I know its a common problem for M10 and D50

[morst]

By the way!

I have one more M10 and D50 - both doesn't powers on. It's not due internal battery.
What it can be? I know its a common problem for M10 and D50

could be a bad switch?

[Gaerlind]

could be a bad switch?

If so - it would be great. But too simple.