Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: High bias cassettes  (Read 1220 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ts

  • Trade Count: (76)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3490
  • Gender: Male
High bias cassettes
« on: March 13, 2022, 09:32:15 AM »
Any source for these? I can only find normal bias new stock. High bias are old stock and way overpriced.

Offline GLouie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 127
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2022, 12:56:36 PM »
Tascam is selling a new type II cassette. I know nothing about them or where to buy.

https://tascam.com/us/product/424/top

Offline jb63

  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (31)
  • Taperssection Member
  • *
  • Posts: 914
  • Gender: Male
  • if not now when?
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2022, 01:26:50 PM »
Wait. Cassettes? We're going back to cassettes?
I have volumes of old high bias cassettes I'm done with. Recorded on once, transferred, done.
You can have them if you like.
once again, lost in all the noise

Offline GLouie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 127
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2022, 01:44:20 PM »
And I note that B&H has them "coming soon" for only $22 each. Maybe those NOS aren't so overpriced!

Offline ts

  • Trade Count: (76)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3490
  • Gender: Male
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2022, 05:13:34 PM »
Maxell XLill's are around 20 each. Way cheaper than that Tascam that B&H will be carrying. I guess I'll buy a 5 pack of the type 1's.

I also have a bunch of once used cassettes, but they're all masters and I have some kind of attachment to them. Don't think I could ever record over them. BTW, I'm reinstalling the original head unit back in my Land Rover and it has a cassette player. Just going to transfer some LP's to cassette for road listening.

Offline rocksuitcase

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 7528
  • Gender: Male
    • RockSuitcase: stage photography
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2022, 06:11:35 PM »
I have to add in here about a website I have recently been "radicalized" by: http://www.tapeheads.net     >:D
These guys are into collecting serious cassette machinery and vintage audio of all types. They also have a sub set of them who purchase old, preferably gently used, used tapes. The prices for a once or twice recorded on Maxell UDXLII can go for $1-2 each!
But better than the prices on new tapes. I only joined to learn more about available cassette decks, which these guys feel are more "repairable" than others, etc. Now, I spend time reading about mix tape making etc.  8) That said, some of these dudes have SERIOUS playback systems and I enjoy looking at their photos of them.

The site is a 'Moderated site" in that you have to request a registration, like many sites.
PLUS, in order to sell in their classifieds you have to have 25 or 30 posts (can't recall which)
http://www.tapeheads.net/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_usage#faq_vb3_register
music IS love

When you get confused, listen to the music play!

Mics:         AKG460|CK61|CK1|CK3|CK8|Beyer M 201E|DPA 4060 SK
Recorders:Marantz PMD661 OADE Concert mod; Tascam DR680 MKI

Offline ts

  • Trade Count: (76)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3490
  • Gender: Male
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2022, 10:29:05 AM »
I've lurked on that site quite a bit. I don't think I could ever come up with 25+ posts. Way too much testosterone flowing around. A good example is trying to wade through the best 3 head deck thread. Good luck!

Anyway, I'm going to be getting some service done on my Nak deck soon. I found a good local shop to do it. He knew it has a Sankyo motor so he must be somewhat familiar with them. So with a fresh service I thought I would do some recording. It's a Cassette Deck 1.

Offline Gil

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 6749
  • Gender: Male
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2022, 10:43:22 AM »
Jesus. I've had a wrapped XLII-S in my desk drawer at work for over three years now.
"Let's go do some crimes."

"To his mind, an opportunity to insult a successful ape came from the hand of Providence."

Teac ME-80(cards & omnis), AT943(hypers)>Tascam DR-2d

Offline rocksuitcase

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 7528
  • Gender: Male
    • RockSuitcase: stage photography
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2022, 11:42:40 AM »
I've lurked on that site quite a bit. I don't think I could ever come up with 25+ posts. Way too much testosterone flowing around. A good example is trying to wade through the best 3 head deck thread. Good luck!

Anyway, I'm going to be getting some service done on my Nak deck soon. I found a good local shop to do it. He knew it has a Sankyo motor so he must be somewhat familiar with them. So with a fresh service I thought I would do some recording. It's a Cassette Deck 1.
Tony, I could probably find 5-10 used once XLII's I would send you. Oddly, I have zero unused, wrapped, NOS cassettes
PM me for further chat on this if interested
BTW-- I thought I couldn't post 25 times and am now up over 300!!! You just have to post a lot of "nice deck" comments      lol
Although the one time I tried to set a person straight re physics and acoustics, that dude got pissed that I was challenging him with basic science.  >:D
Another poster wrote me to say don't take it to heart, it is the snake oil side of the group- those who KNOW silver is better than gold for conductance, etc (e.g. as opposed to each having trade-offs)
« Last Edit: March 15, 2022, 11:57:11 AM by rocksuitcase »
music IS love

When you get confused, listen to the music play!

Mics:         AKG460|CK61|CK1|CK3|CK8|Beyer M 201E|DPA 4060 SK
Recorders:Marantz PMD661 OADE Concert mod; Tascam DR680 MKI

Offline ts

  • Trade Count: (76)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3490
  • Gender: Male
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2022, 10:48:01 AM »
I've lurked on that site quite a bit. I don't think I could ever come up with 25+ posts. Way too much testosterone flowing around. A good example is trying to wade through the best 3 head deck thread. Good luck!

Anyway, I'm going to be getting some service done on my Nak deck soon. I found a good local shop to do it. He knew it has a Sankyo motor so he must be somewhat familiar with them. So with a fresh service I thought I would do some recording. It's a Cassette Deck 1.
Tony, I could probably find 5-10 used once XLII's I would send you. Oddly, I have zero unused, wrapped, NOS cassettes
PM me for further chat on this if interested
BTW-- I thought I couldn't post 25 times and am now up over 300!!! You just have to pots a lot of "nice deck" comments      lol
Although the one time I tried to set a person straight re physics and acoustics, that dude got pissed that I was challenging him with basic science.  >:D
Another poster wrote me to say don't take it to heart, it is the snake oil side of the group- those who KNOW silver is better than gold for conductance, etc (e.g. as opposed to each having trade-offs)

Hey Kyle, I actually found a box of ten that I would not mind taping over. They're masters but nothing worth keeping the original of. Thanks anyway for the offer.

Yea, I could do 25 of the nice deck comment, but that's about it. Most of those guys are way over the top for me.🙄

Offline rocksuitcase

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 7528
  • Gender: Male
    • RockSuitcase: stage photography
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2022, 12:08:49 PM »
^^^^^^^ cool
Back OT, sort of   >:D
On tapeheads I read that a lot of them prefer the Type I, normal bias tapes for their recording of mixtapes etc. Chrome, or High bias was supposed to best the frequency response and saturation levels of recordings, which it did, but also did not ,depending on whose opinion or lab results you favor.

secondly,  I never knew back in the day, but now it is established knowledge that the two countries where most tape was manufactured, Germany and Japan had different standards and thus varying performance depending on which tape one used.  (ANSI vs DIN) So, Japanese manufacturers such as TDK, Maxell, and Sony were set as defaults for the Japanese built machines (Nakamichi, Sony etc) while BASF and AGFA were the standard used for EU/German decks such as Studer, Tandberg, Uher, B&O etc.

Finally, of course, there were only about a dozen factories worldwide which made tape, they then branded and shelled tapes to specific brand instructions/design/standards.
music IS love

When you get confused, listen to the music play!

Mics:         AKG460|CK61|CK1|CK3|CK8|Beyer M 201E|DPA 4060 SK
Recorders:Marantz PMD661 OADE Concert mod; Tascam DR680 MKI

Offline relefunt

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 268
  • Gender: Male
  • kindfulness
    • Milwaukee Taper
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2022, 05:39:57 PM »
Ther  is a US source for newly produced high bias cassettes but they are basically awful. I’m not going to link to their website, until they get their act together.

With a great deck like a Nakamichi ZX-9 or a Dragon, decent Type I’s can sound amazing. With a very good deck (other Naks) they can sound surprisingly sweet.

Anyone wanting to give away used-once cassettes should first take a look at what they going for on the Bay. Unopened ones like Maxell XL-II will be priced around $10 a piece or maybe slightly less.

AKG c414xls, Beyerdynamic MC930, Line Audio CM3 and OM1. Superluxe S502mk2
Sneaky: Church CA11+14, Audiotechnica AT853.
Preamps: Shure FP24, CA9200.
Recorder: Sound Devices MixPre6, Roland R05, Sony M10.
my local taping blog: milwaukeetaper.com

Offline rocksuitcase

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 7528
  • Gender: Male
    • RockSuitcase: stage photography
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2022, 06:16:38 PM »
Anyone wanting to give away used-once cassettes should first take a look at what they going for on the Bay. Unopened ones like Maxell XL-II will be priced around $10 a piece or maybe slightly less.
To be clear, I was willing to "give them away" (ten of them) to 'ts' on Taperssection not only because I know him from here, and for many years, but because we are kindred spirits in GD LMA uploading. I am not giving them to thrift shops or anything. I have been in discussions with some tapeheads members about what to do with about 500 "gently used" Maxell XLII's. (1989-1991 generation) They basically all have 1st through 4th gen mid 90's AUD GD recordings which are of no use to anyone these days for the music. And even then the market rate for used-once Chromes is about $1-3 each. (relefunt, I don't know you, but I'd make the same offer as you are a TS type)    8)
music IS love

When you get confused, listen to the music play!

Mics:         AKG460|CK61|CK1|CK3|CK8|Beyer M 201E|DPA 4060 SK
Recorders:Marantz PMD661 OADE Concert mod; Tascam DR680 MKI

Online mrfender

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 298
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2022, 08:08:07 PM »
You might check out Goodwill.com, auction site for the thrift stores. Quite a few lots of "new" TDK, Maxell and Sony tapes.
DR-01, DR-05, DR-22wl, DR-40, PCM-M10, Roland R-07
CA-11 omni, CA-14 card/omni, at853 cards/omni, Nak CM-300 cards/omni

Offline ts

  • Trade Count: (76)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3490
  • Gender: Male
Re: High bias cassettes
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2022, 09:16:52 AM »
You might check out Goodwill.com, auction site for the thrift stores. Quite a few lots of "new" TDK, Maxell and Sony tapes.

Thanks for the tip!

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.094 seconds with 37 queries.
© 2002-2022 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF