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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #165 on: August 18, 2010, 12:38:59 PM »
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #166 on: September 05, 2010, 11:53:30 PM »
I emailed the US service and parts distributors about part number 2180M05010 and the cost is 30.47 + shipping. See my previous post on the prior page describing the part/reference the part on the AKG 480 documentation I posted as well on the prior page or look at the pictures of my 460's that I took that are on my flickr page that I posted a link to on the prior page as well.

Hope this helps some people.  I think I am going to go ahead and order one to take pictures of for people and hopefully pass on to some machinists to look at for possible incorporation into the collettes that were made in AKG projects thread one for use in the Schoeps/Nola/etc bars people are making.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #167 on: September 08, 2010, 06:00:55 PM »
Also the contact ring on the 460's and the plastic piece on the PCB are available.  so all 3 parts and part numbers are available.  all info is here.

PCB 2180M05010             $30.47 ea

Contact Ring 2180Z05010             $6.37 ea

Plastic piece 2180Z04010            $19.30 ea
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #168 on: September 09, 2010, 06:35:12 PM »
Any chance you could find out the part# for the lemo connector for the ck1x capsule and mk46 cable?
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #169 on: September 09, 2010, 07:17:56 PM »
I have gotten all the part numbers off of the service documents in these 3 threads.  It would just be getting those documents and asking if the part numbers are current and the stock the parts.  I'll see what I can come up with though.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #170 on: September 10, 2010, 03:12:11 AM »
I just want to throw this out there to see opinions, I have found that someone has made a battery box for the AKG ck#x capsules.  What are peoples opinions on the box or does no one know about it here.

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http://www.archive.org/details/uo2009-06-04.akg.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/rre2009-06-05.ck3x.flac16

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http://img101.imageshack.us/f/battbox7.jpg/
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #171 on: September 10, 2010, 12:38:13 PM »
I just want to throw this out there to see opinions, I have found that someone has made a battery box for the AKG ck#x capsules.  What are peoples opinions on the box or does no one know about it here.

Link to some recordings on archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/uo2009-06-04.akg.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/rre2009-06-05.ck3x.flac16

Picture I found of it:
http://img101.imageshack.us/f/battbox7.jpg/
I made that battery box for Andrew Berg.  I don't know where he got the connectors.


That said, I think the group should focus on the standard AKG CK6# capsules.  The old CK#x (electret versions) are quite rare, and they are also no longer serviceable by AKG.  I expect the CK6# to sound a lot better as well.


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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #172 on: September 17, 2010, 05:25:18 PM »
I received some parts from AKG today.

Pictures are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkrogh/sets/72157624977412924/

I took more pictures than this but I only uploaded a select number just to give people an idea of what each of these looks like on their own.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #173 on: September 17, 2010, 05:49:29 PM »
I received some parts from AKG today.

Pictures are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkrogh/sets/72157624977412924/

I took more pictures than this but I only uploaded a select number just to give people an idea of what each of these looks like on their own.
Great work!  Thanks for taking this on.


Can you tell me (again) the part #'s and prices for the parts in image MG_3688?  The left one is plastic, the middle one is the center pin.  I don't need the ring at the right.
While you're at it, do you have any information about the brass tube for the 460 or 480?  It may be expensive, but a complete hack would be to just saw off 1" at the end and use that for the threads...


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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #174 on: September 17, 2010, 06:02:31 PM »
I received some parts from AKG today.

Pictures are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkrogh/sets/72157624977412924/

I took more pictures than this but I only uploaded a select number just to give people an idea of what each of these looks like on their own.
Great work!  Thanks for taking this on.


Can you tell me (again) the part #'s and prices for the parts in image MG_3688?  The left one is plastic, the middle one is the center pin.  I don't need the ring at the right.
While you're at it, do you have any information about the brass tube for the 460 or 480?  It may be expensive, but a complete hack would be to just saw off 1" at the end and use that for the threads...


  Richard

Contact Holder (plastic piece) 2180Z04010      $19.30 ea
Contact Board (center pin) 2180M05010          $30.47 ea
c480b Housing Tube 2180M13150           $169 ea
c460b housing tube 2180M0301              $87.74 ea  <- this looks to be the old model with the 4 switches on it and the discounted price may be just to get rid of remaining stock.
c460b housing tube 2180M1311 (not available any more)

I don't have a price right now for the housing tube, it would probably be Monday by the time I get an answer.  The part number will probably be 2180M1315 (c480b tube).  The part number for the c460b tube is 2180M0301 & 2180M1311 depending on what kind of housing tube you are looking for since AKG made two types/versions of AKG's. The first tube (early models) had 4 switches on them, and the second (revision) only has one switch on it.  Prices include shipping and come (at least they arrived this way to me) Fed Ex ground and will take about 5-6 business days to arrive. To order call 818-920-3279, you place the order over the phone and give your information and the part numbers you are looking for along with CC info.  They will ask for the following: Name, Address, City, St, Zip, Ph, CC#, Exp Date, and Security Code.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #175 on: September 17, 2010, 06:31:31 PM »
See previous post for updated information.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #176 on: September 17, 2010, 07:02:57 PM »
I received some parts from AKG today.

Pictures are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkrogh/sets/72157624977412924/

I took more pictures than this but I only uploaded a select number just to give people an idea of what each of these looks like on their own.
WOW that looks like you could be on to something
take that contact board, put it inside an end cap and there is your center pin connection - no??
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #177 on: September 28, 2010, 10:59:15 AM »
What would be the ideal length and diameter for the capsule side cable coupler end?
I know there are already many "kwon bar" type solutions for other active type set-ups. It would be nice if the coupler size and length worked with an existing mounting system.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #178 on: September 28, 2010, 12:49:14 PM »

While you're at it, do you have any information about the brass tube for the 460 or 480?  It may be expensive, but a complete hack would be to just saw off 1" at the end and use that for the threads...

  Richard

That's not a ridiculous idea.  You chop it off and make some connections with the front part of the body and you have something similar to a Franken-Nak.  I'm a manufacturing engineer who got involved in a lot of development/prototypes.  If you can make something ugly to test your electrical design, that's the way to go.  Once you get it working you can decide where to go from there.

Teddy used to know some people unloading beat up 460 bodes cheap.   If you can buy a body for $100, and a "moderately skilled" person can chop it off, solder some connections and bury it in epoxy, that's probably cheaper than you will find a skilled machinist to make them from bar stock for brass and delrin/nylon.  At least while you are at the prototype stage.  It's not just the threads, you need a outer ring of brass, and a concentric ring of insulator material etc.  I don't think you will find them for $100 each unless you buy enough quantity to set up a screw machine.

In the end it might come down to "we can make a rig with a chunk of body (like FrankenNaks) for $500, or we can make a rig pretty like Schoeps for the same price as Schoeps".

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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #179 on: September 28, 2010, 01:38:01 PM »
I've been looking into buying just the bodies, to chop them up. This from Dkrogh's post a few lines up:

c460b housing tube 2180M0301              $87.74 ea  <- this looks to be the old model with the 4 switches on it and the discounted price may be just to get rid of remaining stock.

I honestly believe we are close to making this thing a reality. The screw on collettes are the biggest hurdle right now.
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