Topic: adk tl users, inside please

[junkbondking]

so i just got a new shure vert bar.  partially to allow me to run blumein, partially for xy.

looking at how i set up the vert bar with my shockmounts for xy has kinda freaked me out.  does anyone else run their tl's in a horizontal xy, rather than the vertical xy that moke posted all those pics of ?

im trying to run xy horizontal for castino & austin @ cervantes.  a venue with nortoriously shitty sound, and want to try some new patterns with the ld's.

thanks.

[nickgregory]

Shoot JasonB a PM...when he ran the TLs, I saw him run them mics in horizontal XY on a shure vert bar...

[Craig T]

yes, I use a "horizontal" x/y setup, same for blumlein and m/s.

[junkbondking]

so craig, are u using a vert bar, or just a regular stereo bar or something different ?

[junkbondking]

low profile is not the right way to go at cervantes moke.  it is combat taping for sure there.  i have thought of the way that you do your xy pattern, and it makes a lot of sense, but i think that the vert bar as-is will allow me to run em horizontally too.

[Craig T]

so craig, are u using a vert bar, or just a regular stereo bar or something different ?

Shure a27m vert bar.

Sometimes the width of the "horiz" x/y isn't that big a deal and allows to keep the mic diaphragms just a little bit higher.  When running fob, I can't see useing "vert" x/y since I'll have to lower the mics a little to keep the xlr cable of the top mic from being above 5 1/2'.  I like to keep the diaphrams up as high as possible so the surrounding bodies don't "block the sound".  Sometimes on stage height is a bigger problem than width, so for the same reasons I'd stick with "horiz" x/y to keep the diaphrams higher.

I can see why "vert" x/y would be better for some situations - tall thin obstruction compared to short fat.  I recently received a spacer for the a27m, so I'll be using the "vert" x/y when the situation dictates.

[junkbondking]

thanks guys.  i have already spent some time messing with the stanard spacing on the vert bar and moved it out a lot.  i guess i have to fiddle with my shockmounts a little more.  for friday nite ill run horizontal xy, then for their sunday show it will be blumein for sure.  hopefully onstage as well.

[BCostigan]

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[save]

the easiest and cheapest way i've fround w/ out having to buy a t bar or vert bar is just buying a clamp.  screw one mount into the top of the stand and clamp the other below it.  worked good for me so far!

[nic]

having problems trying to picture running blumlein with the mics horizontal...is this even possible?

I sold my vert bar, because it was a pain to get the TL's in blumlein, ms or xy vertical.
havent run them horizontal....I have 2 clamps for when I need to run any of those patterns