Topic: Mic stand noise

[voltronic]

How stiff are the lyres on your INV's?  I found mine cause noise if I look at them wrong.

You may be another person suffering from Rycote making a recommendation for lyres too stiff for your mics. Once you have the right ones, there's nothing I have found that works better. But you often need to go a level softer than they recommend.

For example, they say the INV-7 HG MKIII is suitable for the DPA 4011. Not a chance! Rumble city.

I'm using 62 (black/black), would never go stiffer, and there is nothing softer from what I can tell.  But yes, I need to be very careful when using it.

With your Schoeps actives? I would think the 62 Lyres should be plenty compliant. I use them with my CM3s which are lighter than your actives, and are very vibration-sensitive.

[rigpimp]

With your Schoeps actives? I would think the 62 Lyres should be plenty compliant. I use them with my CM3s which are lighter than your actives, and are very vibration-sensitive.

Yes, running my CCM 4 lg pair in an ORTF bar or running MK5/MK/8 actives but particularly the latter.  I used to have a bulky ORTF-M/S combo mount that Scott made for me and that was even worse.  I got to the point where I mount the M/S on a Rowi clamped at the top of my 3373 to help alleviate stress on the Rycote INV.

[Gutbucket]

I need to be very careful when using it.

As general rule-of-thumb, I've found that for shock mounts to effectively attenuate solid-born noise transmitted through the stand, the suspension needs to be loose enough that whatever is suspended gets pretty wiggly.  More than I'd like.  So much so that it gets a bit disconcerting.

[voltronic]

With your Schoeps actives? I would think the 62 Lyres should be plenty compliant. I use them with my CM3s which are lighter than your actives, and are very vibration-sensitive.

Yes, running my CCM 4 lg pair in an ORTF bar or running MK5/MK/8 actives but particularly the latter.  I used to have a bulky ORTF-M/S combo mount that Scott made for me and that was even worse.  I got to the point where I mount the M/S on a Rowi clamped at the top of my 3373 to help alleviate stress on the Rycote INV.

Really scratching my head here, because I use one pair of 72 Lyres for a pair of CM3 on a SRS bar, and they are lighter than your actives. The 62 Lyres would be way too floppy for this - I use them when mounting the CM3 individually.

[grv68]

Just to circle back on this, I finally had a chance to try things out last night and I was (of course) obsessing over nothing.  Things went well.  Even had someone near the tapers' section jumping up and down.  No worries.  Thanks for the input and discussion!

[Gutbucket]

Yeah.  Even though the comment I posted above (quoted below) is true.  In actual use, I find most times I hear little to no solid-born noise in my recordings when using minimally effective shock-mounting or even no shock mounting at all.  I go through cycles of doing things to improve decoupling, mostly as a best practices kind of thing, but I don't let it interfere with the practicality of the system and have learned not to worry about it much.

The situations where I've found it most necessary is clamping to a railing, barrier, or other structure that folks are leaning on / drumming on / kicking / pushing around a bit. Really needing them on a free standing stand is actually not very common in my own experience.

As general rule-of-thumb, I've found that for shock mounts to effectively attenuate solid-born noise transmitted through the stand, the suspension needs to be loose enough that whatever is suspended gets pretty wiggly.  More than I'd like.  So much so that it gets a bit disconcerting.