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Wavelab recording tutorial?
« on: June 19, 2005, 04:50:17 PM »
I am just getting into doing some light taping and am intially planning on using a Presonus Firebox running into my laptop into Wavelabs 5.0.  What I am looking for is a tutorial on the recording into Wavelabs and then instruction on the post recording steps to turn the wav files into a CD.  I have studio computer recording experience already.

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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2005, 05:38:25 PM »
believe it or not, but the help functions in wavelab are pretty good and accurate, just browse over it

wavelab 5 has a ton of functions and i still dont know how to use but maybe half of them

id record in wavelab 5, track out the show in cd wave editor(free) and then encode/compress w/ flac frontend, or just burn to cd as wav files in nero or a decent freeware burning program(burnatonce-also free)
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2005, 06:29:30 PM »
Thanks for the reply.

I guess that my main concern was that there were additional steps within WaveLab that needed to be handled.  Does anyone normalize their recordings within WaveLab?

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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2005, 06:37:44 PM »
ive just been 'changing gain' lately rather than normalizing :)
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2005, 07:40:41 PM »
Wavelab is great for recording.  Make sure you configure your options first, so you are recording the input you want, the way you want (ie select S/PDIF or whatever).  Then you'll need to match up all the parameters of your input (if digital), soundcard, and Wavelab in terms of sample rate, bit depth and what not.  There's some automated functions you may or may not use to control length, on/off, etc.

It will take some time to learn all the possibilities of modifying your file once recorded.  To change the gain for a portion, or all, of the recording, make sure you highlight the portion of the file first, then go to change gain or normalize.  Yes, the help functions are essential because of all the options.  Don't split tracks in Wavelab, use CD Wave for that.

Good luck!  It's a very useful program.

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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2005, 09:09:38 PM »
what's wrong w/ tracking something in Wavelab? I haven't touched CDwave since working in Wavelab 5. I use it for the entire post process. Please advise if I'm not working at optimum.

Speaking of Wavelab, anyone know how to get hands on the L3 ultramaximizer vst plugin? I need to compress stuff, I dld'd the free trial and it ran out, now am looking to find it again. I only need it for another week.....
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 08:42:58 PM »
what's wrong w/ tracking something in Wavelab? I haven't touched CDwave since working in Wavelab 5. I use it for the entire post process. Please advise if I'm not working at optimum.

Speaking of Wavelab, anyone know how to get hands on the L3 ultramaximizer vst plugin? I need to compress stuff, I dld'd the free trial and it ran out, now am looking to find it again. I only need it for another week.....

sector boundary errors in wavelab and most editing programs

BUT if you compress/encode in flac frontend's newer versions, you can just check the sector boundaries box and it will correct the SBE's when it encodes!
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 09:40:20 PM »
it will correct the SBE's when it encodes!

How?  does it add zeroes or chop off bits?  That'd be a neat trick if it actually moved bits from one file to the other but I doubt it.
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2005, 07:56:21 AM »
WaveLab burns redbook compliant cd's.  No sector boundary issues if you drop cd markers and check the "quantize to cd frame" box in the marker dialogue.

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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2005, 09:42:08 AM »
yep. NO probs here either.

Another feature I like is to auto mark at a set interval of time, a little like the old auto index feature on MiniDisc's, which in playback of long files, makes for easy moving around in the files. They don't HAVE to be CD track markings but just a normal mark.

Another feature that is helpful for me, since I preset and then pass off the rig to a tapir taping myself, is to auto start/stop. This way, I can hand off rig at any reasonable time before show and trust that it will go on when I need it to, rather than having them fiddle with buttons. To be able to do this I've added the second battery in my Dell 8200, and can get it to last for 4 hours of opera, without recording the intermissions.
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2005, 02:40:38 PM »
it will correct the SBE's when it encodes!

How? does it add zeroes or chop off bits? That'd be a neat trick if it actually moved bits from one file to the other but I doubt it.

I'm not 100% sure actually, well, i think it does move bits around, not in a degrading way tho!

mike wren said awhile back that the newer versions DO work correctly, the older versions didnt do the SBE thing correctly

i verified everything w/ shntool and the newer flac frontend's do seem to be on par!
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2005, 12:28:35 PM »
thanks bean - I checked some of the documentation and couldn't really tell.  But that thing was designed by some very clever folks.  No matter - I still like my CDWave for cutting.
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Re: Wavelab recording tutorial?
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2005, 10:38:21 AM »
Doesn't FLAC just shift the leftover samples to the next track when you encode and align?

I might try tracking in Wavelab.  I would like to since it's more precise.  CD Wave is nice and dependable though.

 

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