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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #315 on: April 27, 2011, 10:33:17 PM »


Playing with the Nanocon drawings...My mockup of the Naiant AKG Active Collete...it is not to scale...I'll tighten up with corel draw next week...

If there are actual measurements to be glad I'll get it closer.

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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #316 on: April 27, 2011, 11:18:39 PM »
Obviously I'm Nanocon Challenged... ;D

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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #317 on: April 28, 2011, 02:21:02 AM »
I wouldn't be crazy about using the nanocon as a mount because they are so tiny vs. the weight of the capsule + coupling.  I can trim the OD of the coupling after the first 9mm down from 21mm to 18mm, if that is easier than 21mm (which would fit a mic clip).

Doh...I guess the vision I had was like the Schoeps Collette/CCM have a section to clip at the back...but with the Nanocon that would not be the case...got it....

KISS would be my principle...keep it 21mm and clip to the Collette there....there are lots of microphones @ 21mm diameter

Actually, I thought the KownBars were 20mm, and not 21mm ???
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #318 on: April 28, 2011, 09:08:40 AM »
But, from what Jon was saying, it sounds like he can turn down the OD of that grey part around the connector. That would allow it to be used in a Delron fixture more easily.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #319 on: April 28, 2011, 10:07:35 AM »
Holy crap guys.  Seeing these mock ups makes me all tingly inside.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #320 on: April 28, 2011, 11:31:35 AM »
Can't you guys get anything right?

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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #321 on: April 28, 2011, 11:46:05 AM »
For those who haven't seen this yet. I have attached a couple of photos of the JKLabs AKG actives solution from tape_ohio's DVC II Yard Sale.


edit:
to add one more photo.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 12:09:32 PM by Chuck »
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #322 on: April 28, 2011, 11:52:31 AM »
Has there been a time frame suggested for all of this?
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #323 on: April 28, 2011, 12:04:16 PM »
Never?   ;D

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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #324 on: April 28, 2011, 12:14:08 PM »
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #325 on: April 28, 2011, 12:48:52 PM »
For those who haven't seen this yet. I have attached a couple of photos of the JKLabs AKG actives solution from tape_ohio's DVC II Yard Sale.


I replaced my JK_Labs collettes and had the new collettes machined so the "neck" would fit into standard schoeps dina/dina etc bars and clips. Cables were also replaced with Belden 1804a.



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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #326 on: April 28, 2011, 01:04:52 PM »

I replaced my JK_Labs collettes and had the new collettes machined so the "neck" would fit into standard schoeps dina/dina etc bars and clips. Cables were also replaced with Belden 1804a.

??? ??? ???

So did you rebuild the FET circuit inside the collettes or somehow extract and re-use the old one?

Very nice work!

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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #327 on: April 28, 2011, 01:12:54 PM »
Not quite that narrow, still need to have room to fasten the nut (I'm not a fan of threading the nanocon directly into the coupling, that's too hard to service).

Like this:

I'd just keep the collette so that it is a constant 21mm, matching the cap.  21mm is a fairly standard size to allow a variety of mic clips or shocks to be used, and keeping it constant provides more depth for attaching to a mic clip. If you shift it down to 18mm, you leave less room to be attaching the clip and move to a less standard clip size.

Using the nanocons rather than having a hard-wired cable (a good idea in my book) means you won't be able to get that smaller tail piece like on the jklabs collette that allows insertion into a kwonbar.  I think that type of bar setup would need to attach to the nanocon itself, which you say isn't recommended and may not be feasible given the nanocon connector shape.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #328 on: April 28, 2011, 01:21:03 PM »
I see one potential benefit of using nanocons at the capsule assembly is the possibility of making machined capsule assemblies for other brands of capsules in the future,
as it-goes-to-eleven pointed out in his post.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 3
« Reply #329 on: April 28, 2011, 01:25:42 PM »
Sorry, i guess my language wasn't too clear.  I think going to a separate cable using nanocons is the good idea, much better than having hard-wired cables.  Cables can wear out and break, much better to be able to re-build or throw out cheap cables than to need to rebuild the cables into an expensive active head.  Expensive being a relative term, as it seems Jon is planning on a pretty reasonable price.
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