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Title: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: resource on June 22, 2011, 12:50:51 AM
Hi there

There's probably a technical name for it, but I am looking for a clip-on mic for audio recording. The mic should be similar to what you see on journalist or reporters on the news. I am looking for one that can withstand noise from wind and surrounding noise like road traffic.

Do you have any suggested brand and model for someone with a low budget? I am a beginner and want to do a DIY video clip. I intend to have a separate audio recording and combine with my video footage after a shoot.

Any suggested mic would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Regards
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: Scooter123 on June 22, 2011, 09:48:32 AM
DPA make some of the best
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: andromedanwarmachine on June 23, 2011, 10:00:09 AM
Hi Resource,

not to detract from Scooter's reply; you may find that DPA stuff is beyond your budget (as described).

What your looking for is called a lapel mic and you might be looking for something like this;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNUSED-SONY-ELECTRET-CONDENSER-MICROPHONE-ECM-CZ10-/250840945208?pt=UK_Collectables_InputDevices_RL&hash=item3a67491238

for which you would in turn need to power it up. It's possible your other gear may be able to do this. Are you able to list what else you are using?

Mics don't really come with an inbuilt resistance to traffic noise and wind as such (alright; pickup pattern goes a long way) so a combination of techniques and accessories is usually employed to produce a result. Rycote make a lovely cover which is very effective against environmental "conditions"...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rycote-Furry-personal-mic-Lavalier-Windjammer-/250690312211?pt=UK_Consumer_Professional_RL&hash=item3a5e4e9813

What's your actual budget?

JimP

Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: aaronji on June 23, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
Mics don't really come with an inbuilt resistance to traffic noise and wind as such (alright; pickup pattern goes a long way) so a combination of techniques and accessories is usually employed to produce a result. Rycote make a lovely cover which is very effective against environmental "conditions"...

Omnis are usually much more resistant to wind than directional mics.  Traffic is another story, though... 
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: resource on June 23, 2011, 10:37:28 PM
DPA make some of the best

Hi Scooter123

Thanks for your recommendation. I'll go look it up!

Please let me know if you have any other suggestions. Thanks again!

Regards
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: resource on June 23, 2011, 10:47:49 PM
Hi Resource,

not to detract from Scooter's reply; you may find that DPA stuff is beyond your budget (as described).

What your looking for is called a lapel mic and you might be looking for something like this;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNUSED-SONY-ELECTRET-CONDENSER-MICROPHONE-ECM-CZ10-/250840945208?pt=UK_Collectables_InputDevices_RL&hash=item3a67491238

for which you would in turn need to power it up. It's possible your other gear may be able to do this. Are you able to list what else you are using?

Mics don't really come with an inbuilt resistance to traffic noise and wind as such (alright; pickup pattern goes a long way) so a combination of techniques and accessories is usually employed to produce a result. Rycote make a lovely cover which is very effective against environmental "conditions"...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rycote-Furry-personal-mic-Lavalier-Windjammer-/250690312211?pt=UK_Consumer_Professional_RL&hash=item3a5e4e9813

What's your actual budget?

JimP

Hi JimP

Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it.

I don't have any recording gear at the moment. As mentioned, I am just starting out and need both a portable recorder where I can strap to my waist belt or pocket and a clip-on mic onto my shirt collar to to the recording.

I am not sure about getting a windjammer at this stage as I just need the basic stuff to get going. The Sony ECM-SZ10 seems like a bigger piece of item than I expected. I'm wondering if it is abit too heavy to be clipped on to a shirt collar during the recording.

I am on a small budget. Probably nothing more than a $100. I need to set aside the spending for a portable audio recorder and a clip-on mic. If the mic cost more than the audio recorder, does it mean I am not being sensible?

Please let me know if you have any other suggestions. Thanks again!

Regards


Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: resource on June 23, 2011, 10:51:44 PM
Hi aaronji

Thanks for your reply. I am really new to this, but could you please tell me what is Omnis and Directional mics? Is it something I should ask when I buy the mic?

If you have any suggestions on getting a clip-on mic, please let me know. I really appreciate it!

Regards


Mics don't really come with an inbuilt resistance to traffic noise and wind as such (alright; pickup pattern goes a long way) so a combination of techniques and accessories is usually employed to produce a result. Rycote make a lovely cover which is very effective against environmental "conditions"...

Omnis are usually much more resistant to wind than directional mics.  Traffic is another story, though...
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: rastasean on June 23, 2011, 11:09:13 PM
question: what is something small, something with good quality, something clips on but over $100?

answer: countryman b3.

I unfortunately don't have any recommendations for less than $100.
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: resource on June 23, 2011, 11:12:47 PM
question: what is something small, something with good quality, something clips on but over $100?

answer: countryman b3.

I unfortunately don't have any recommendations for less than $100.

Hi rastasean

Thank you for your reply. I realised I am lacking in knowledge on the cost of getting a clip-on mic. I am willing to spend more than $100 for a clip-on mic. I just need more info on what is available on the market. Obviously, I would like to save some money and get a decent clip-on mic.

I am starting out and don't need the best equipment. But please feel free to suggest any mic that you have come across. Thanks again. I really appreciate your input.

Regards
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: resource on June 23, 2011, 11:17:35 PM
Hi Everyone

I know this is a microphone thread. But I am looking for both the mic and the portable audio recorder.

If you have any suggestion for a portable audio recorder, please help me out with this question on the recorder thread below:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=146435.0

Thanks again guys. I really really appreciate your thoughts.

Regards
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: andromedanwarmachine on June 24, 2011, 08:56:48 AM
Hey Resource,

do a Google Images search for the Sony- I'm sure you'll find it's what you want; I think there may be an add-on interference tube to alter the characteristics of the pickup but you wouldn't have to use it with that. I wasn't too obvious what the actual capsule was in that eBay listing image- it's not the long silver tube but the item  on the end of the cable on the right I think.

There's a distinction here I think between esosteric hi-end audiophile recording gear and interview equipment.

If you are in the early stages of gear-planning for point and shoot/talking head documentary footage I think the Sony will be fine- save money here as it's vocal pickup only and get a better recorder for more decent Mics later.

depends on the application. That's my advice.

It is possible to get sucked into a world of gear at the expense of results.

JimP
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: DigiGal on June 28, 2011, 12:05:16 PM
The Sony ECM55B Omni Lavalier is a very common ENG lav mic... (http://www.fullcompass.com/product/301442.html)
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: F.O.Bean on June 28, 2011, 09:47:42 PM
Church Audio CA-14 cards or omnis ;) 'nuf said!
Title: Re: Shirt Clip-on Mic
Post by: andromedanwarmachine on June 30, 2011, 05:50:25 AM
I think those may be a little out of budget...