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Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« on: August 02, 2010, 07:18:44 PM »
I'm sick and tired of my AT8410a shockmounts. I've gone through two pairs in the past few years buying a single each time one has failed. Now I've got one which either needs some spot welding or to be thrown away and the other needs to be restrung. When they aren't broken, these things rock. They seem to provide a ton of protection when the stand is bumped. I'm running the AKG blueline series and looking for suggestions on alternate shockmounts. Ideally, they need to be the same size or smaller than AT8410a's and provide enough protection when the mic stand is accidently bumped. Another plus would be to mount to the AKG KM235/1 Stereo Microphone Bar without adapters.

So, suggestions and recommendations welcomed. . .
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 07:41:06 PM »
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SP20/?gclid=CLvQ4bX6m6MCFRhuswodvV1amw

i use those for akg391, nak300wcp4s, akg460. seem to sag a bit on the shure vert a27m as they are horizontal mount there.if there is bumping noise i have not heard it,yet. have a screwing tighten them up if need be
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 07:57:11 PM »
JB Weld works well for the most common problem with the 8410s.

Also, At usually supplies replacement bands at no charge.

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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 08:10:41 PM »
I'd try these http://www.pro-audio-warehouse.com/ssm5.html and not F with the AT mount. I had a pair of the AT8410a and it took very few shows for one to fail...while setting up. If you'd like to pay for a proven shock mount, the Shure donuts are nice IMO.
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 08:24:21 PM »
Are there any shocks smaller than the 8410a's (suitable for KM140s) which use the spring mechanism to insert the mics?  I've got the Busman shocks and I really don't like how much effort it takes to squeeze the mics into the mount.  The felt liner is pretty much destroyed from the friction of inserting and removing the mics.
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 08:59:54 PM »
I'd try these http://www.pro-audio-warehouse.com/ssm5.html

that's what I use for my bluelines, or ones idenitical to those (SP stock mounts come to mind, Busman has something similiar etc)

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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 09:36:07 PM »
Kush I can re string them for you...cost 2$                  is one missing a screw......?
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2010, 09:57:32 PM »
I strongly recommend the Rycote "InVision" shock mounts. They are considerably more effective than any other types I've ever seen or used. They also have proper cable clamps, without which no shock mount is effective.

There are models for complete microphones (small or large diameter) and also for capsules on extension cables, such as those by Schoeps and Neumann.

www.rycote.com/products/

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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 11:56:22 PM »
Another vote for the Shure Donuts.  Work with my 480's and with my NOLAbars.  No problems no hassles and work just as well as the overpriced rycote gear.

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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2010, 12:39:01 AM »
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Kush I can re string them for you...cost 2$

You mentioned something about that, elastic hair ties?

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  is one missing a screw......?

No screw missing, it needs to be spot welded or I need to use that JB weld (epoxy) stuff on it for a temporary fix.

 
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Another vote for the Shure Donuts.  Work with my 480's and with my NOLAbars.

Your AKG 480's are 21mm but the AKG 39x's are only 19mm. I don't think they will be snug enough?

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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SP20/?gclid=CLvQ4bX6m6MCFRhuswodvV1amw

i use those for akg391

The price is right on these but it says for mics 20mm in diameter. How is the fit? Snug? Do you use gaffers tape on the bodies? Or add a felt lining on the inside of these? I don't want to put my mics up 10+ feet in the air to have some drunken idiot (maybe even myself) bump the stand and have my mics come out of the shockmounts and fall to the floor.

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html 

These look very cool and I've seen them being used by other tapers. However, they won't screw onto my AKG swivel t-bar without needing adapters to fit the 5/8"-27 threading? Edit: found 5/8" > 3/8" adapters for $5 a piece.




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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2010, 01:49:27 AM »
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html (heard good things)

I strongly recommend the Rycote "InVision" shock mounts. They are considerably more effective than any other types I've ever seen or used. They also have proper cable clamps, without which no shock mount is effective.

(Disclosure: In the U.S., Rycote is distributed by Redding Audio, and the people who run that company are friends of mine.)

I however have no connection to anyone selling them, and I'll also vouch for the Rycote mounts as well. I use mine in a kwonbar-style setup and I've been happy with the results compared to noise with the shure donuts (my second place vote) or the standard elastic mounts. Not much difference, but there is some.
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2010, 07:18:49 AM »
The Nady SSM-5 are too large for the KM184s and KM140s. 
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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2010, 11:56:59 AM »
I have heard the INV-6 is suitable for both full-bodied mics (as pictured in the B&H photo) as well as for running smaller capsule mics on extension cables such as the DPA 402x and the Schoeps.  Is the INV-6 the right model for that?  Would be very useful to me to have mounts that could do both.

I strongly recommend the Rycote "InVision" shock mounts. They are considerably more effective than any other types I've ever seen or used. They also have proper cable clamps, without which no shock mount is effective.

There are models for complete microphones (small or large diameter) and also for capsules on extension cables, such as those by Schoeps and Neumann.

www.rycote.com/products/

(Disclosure: In the U.S., Rycote is distributed by Redding Audio, and the people who run that company are friends of mine.)

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Re: Tired of my shockmounts, need suggestions
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2010, 12:21:18 PM »
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    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html 


These look very cool and I've seen them being used by other tapers. However, they won't screw onto my AKG swivel t-bar without needing adapters to fit the 5/8"-27 threading? Edit: found 5/8" > 3/8" adapters for $5 a pie[/color]ce.

it is a good idea to have hand full of those adopters in your bag anyway... if money is tight, put an ISO in yardsale for those adapters and somebody will probably donate to the cause for shipping cost...plus i will look, but i am pretty sure i've seen them for 2 or 3 bucks online before...i'll check it out

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found: http://www.avalive.com/Bogen-Manfrotto/MIBA/66945/productDetail.php?utm_source=googleBase&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=MIBA

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« Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 12:24:36 PM by Big Perm »
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