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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2011, 08:49:08 PM »
All that being said i have recorded "not so open" with dpa4061, hlsc's, 853's, dpa4021 , schoeps mk4, etc and size of the mic is not a issue, be creative and its not a problem for any of these, one thing i will say is as soon as i stopped using clips to attach the mics somewhere on myself the recordings became much better.

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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2011, 09:08:35 PM »
All that being said i have recorded "not so open" with dpa4061, hlsc's, 853's, dpa4021 , schoeps mk4, etc and size of the mic is not a issue, be creative and its not a problem for any of these, one thing i will say is as soon as i stopped using clips to attach the mics somewhere on myself the recordings became much better.

Can you elaborate on that clip comment? I find I get more handling noise not using clips but attaching them to my body via tape, elastic etc.
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2011, 11:18:17 PM »
All that being said i have recorded "not so open" with dpa4061, hlsc's, 853's, dpa4021 , schoeps mk4, etc and size of the mic is not a issue, be creative and its not a problem for any of these, one thing i will say is as soon as i stopped using clips to attach the mics somewhere on myself the recordings became much better.

Can you elaborate on that clip comment? I find I get more handling noise not using clips but attaching them to my body via tape, elastic etc.

Yes, please do elaborate :)
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2011, 11:58:09 PM »
Omnis, Gaff Tape, HRTF = Yum >:D
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 12:02:29 AM »
baseball hat + bobby pins + omni's = win.

Clips have always sucked for me.

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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2011, 12:07:04 AM »
please do elaborate for the stupid fucks that are too lazy, and, stupid to take a moment to figure this stuff out for themselves.
why not let the world know about stealth??
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2011, 12:16:02 AM »
please do elaborate for the stupid fucks that are too lazy, and, stupid to take a moment to figure this stuff out for themselves.
why not let the world know about stealth??
dipshits

give it a rest grandpa :P
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 12:31:16 AM »
DPA 4081 Supercardioids..

http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/products.aspx?c=Item&category=129&item=24376

First line of the description-

The DPA 4081 Supercardioid Miniature Microphone is a high quality directional condenser microphone primarily intended to use for ultra-low profile, discreet recordings in the field..

I asked DPA and was told that other than the gooseneck and senstivity the 4081 and 4098 are identical.
4098 = 20 mV/Pa; -34 dB re. 1 V/Pa (same as 4060)
4081 = 6 mV/Pa; -44 dB re. 1 V/Pa (same as 4061)


Figure out how to use it on your own.
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 12:56:35 AM »
DPA 4081 Supercardioids..

http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/products.aspx?c=Item&category=129&item=24376

First line of the description-

The DPA 4081 Supercardioid Miniature Microphone is a high quality directional condenser microphone primarily intended to use for ultra-low profile, discreet recordings in the field..

I asked DPA and was told that other than the gooseneck and senstivity the 4081 and 4098 are identical.
4098 = 20 mV/Pa; -34 dB re. 1 V/Pa (same as 4060)
4081 = 6 mV/Pa; -44 dB re. 1 V/Pa (same as 4061)


Figure out how to use it on your own.


Why have I never heard of these before ??? How much is a pair?
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 03:47:33 AM »

The DPA 4081 Supercardioid Miniature Microphone is a high quality directional condenser microphone primarily intended to use for ultra-low profile, discreet recordings in the field..


Even DPA is advertising stealth  >:D, talking about it here can't do that much more damage.

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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2011, 09:56:03 AM »

The DPA 4081 Supercardioid Miniature Microphone is a high quality directional condenser microphone primarily intended to use for ultra-low profile, discreet recordings in the field..


Even DPA is advertising stealth  >:D, talking about it here can't do that much more damage.

equipment, not technique.
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 10:07:16 AM »
DPA 4081 Supercardioids (I actually have the 4099s cut out of their mounts, the 4081 is a better way to go now) fit in a croakie.  They even fit in a croakie with a pair of DPA omnis along side, which allows you to record 4-track and then mix the bass from the omnis with the cardioids.  I have been doing this for over two years and I don't know anything small that comes anywhere near this.  Alone, the 4081/4099s are the best sounding small directional mics I have heard (I've tried MM, AT, SP, others too).

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Just curious - how do those DPA 4081s sound on their own?  Even though they're DPA I would assume they'd sound terrible in terms of the low end, just because of the natural limitations of making a small hyper, though I'm sure the rest of the signal sounds nice and DPA-like.... Mixing them with the 4061 is a great idea.
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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2011, 10:16:27 AM »

The DPA 4081 Supercardioid Miniature Microphone is a high quality directional condenser microphone primarily intended to use for ultra-low profile, discreet recordings in the field..


Even DPA is advertising stealth  >:D, talking about it here can't do that much more damage.

equipment, not technique.

That does not equate to stealthing.  I openly recorded, very discreetly (w/ DPA compact mics), for the last decade, because I was in front of intimate chamber ensembles and audiences that don't appreciate having sight lines blocked with big gear; and/or, I don't want to attract players union/guild attention to the fact that I'm recording union players without a contract.
So I chose to do my field recordings with small discreet microphones that obscured the sight lines to the minimum, and drew the least attention.

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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 11:47:23 AM »
Just curious - how do those DPA 4081s sound on their own?  Even though they're DPA I would assume they'd sound terrible in terms of the low end, just because of the natural limitations of making a small hyper, though I'm sure the rest of the signal sounds nice and DPA-like.... Mixing them with the 4061 is a great idea.

They do not sound bad at all.  In my view not as good as Schoeps MK4 in similar use, though a friend who uses MK4s (with active cables > LimoSax > SD702) thinks they are, and he has one of the highest end audiophile systems for playback I know of.  I mix with 4063s, actually, because the Sonosax MiniR82 will power those mic-in, I use the 4099s with an MMA6000 preamp to go line-in.

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Re: Stxxxth microphones (besides omni's)
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2011, 03:21:38 PM »
please do elaborate for the stupid fucks that are too lazy, and, stupid to take a moment to figure this stuff out for themselves.
why not let the world know about stealth??
dipshits

Ya know, I was going to write up a really long post, but why bother?  You're an absolute waste of time. 

EDIT: to the rest, thanks for the posts and comments on models I've probably never heard of.  Time to search the archive for samples.
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