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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: flarcus on February 06, 2014, 09:39:38 PM
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ssia
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Add another set of mics and go 4-mic mix??? :P
Terry
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My old 150s sounded amazing with the Mini-me. Both are gone now, though. :(
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V2 fo sure 8)
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Unfortunately I'm inserting a loud buzzer sound right about here. If he was asking what to run in between the mics and the recorder, you might be able to say that -- however, the OP did ask what PREAMP sould (sic) be added. :)
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Unfortunately I'm inserting a loud buzzer sound right about here. If he was asking what to run in between the mics and the recorder, you might be able to say that -- however, the OP did ask what PREAMP sould (sic) be added. :)
SD744 has two channels of internal pres, so a viable alternative is a cable...AKA no preamp at all.
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Unfortunately I'm inserting a loud buzzer sound right about here. If he was asking what to run in between the mics and the recorder, you might be able to say that -- however, the OP did ask what PREAMP sould (sic) be added. :)
In my defense, only one preamp has been mentioned thus far. So I guess I am inserting double buzzer sounds right about here. :coolguy:
I feel the preamp in the 744 is more than adequate. I never loved the v2, but plenty of other people have and quite honestly I cannot think of a preamp I would recommend. But, that is IMHO, and YMMV.
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Add another set of mics and go 4-mic mix??? :P
Terry
I think another set of mic is the way to go Marcus.
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I feel the preamp in the 744 is more than adequate.
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It's clean and clear. If that's not the sound you want, then add something, otherwise it's another battery, box, and point of potential failure in the chain.
I'll toss out an idea; a Neve Portico. That gives you three sounds: A) The 744 alone for clean and clear. B) The Portico for big iron, and C) The Portico with silk turned on for big iron with super sized coloration.
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Add another set of mics and go 4-mic mix??? :P
Terry
I think another set of mic is the way to go Marcus.
To do that, he'd need both another pair of mics and a preamp since you only get one pair of pre's with the 744.
As I recall, the TLM170 is a touch on the bright side, no? If so, then I'd be going for a preamp that leans warm, like maybe a Portico 5012. For warmth, the Audioroot Femto seems like it has potential...it might be worth keeping an ear on as more and more samples are shared.
EDIT: Oops, Page just made the same preamp suggstion. Nice.
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I just rethought my previous answer Flarcus. You need a preamp with lots of flavor...LICORICE flavor that is! :yahoo:
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I just rethought my previous answer Flarcus. You need a preamp with lots of flavor...LICORICE flavor that is! :yahoo:
When I really want to bring home the heat I soak my windscreens in either Tabasco or Siracha over night before a show. Sometimes I soak the cables as well.
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Thanks for the input, and the heartburn.
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FYI, there is a portico in the YS now. I have no affiliation.
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When I really want to bring home the heat I soak my windscreens in either Tabasco or Siracha over night before a show. Sometimes I soak the cables as well.
That explains so much... I thought I recognized that smell. :o
If so, then I'd be going for a preamp that leans warm, like maybe a Portico 5012.
That was the theory I was headed for, you have a clean and clear solution, and then something that is as far away from that as possible so you have choices. The only other thing might be a 148 (but I'd probably get the Neve first just for the Silk options alone).
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Yea I think ive actually heard a 170>Neve[Silk ON] and it was heavenly. Im sure its on archive and I even think it was moe, so check it out marcus ;)
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i saw the portico and sent a pm, but is it portable? didn't seem like it
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i saw the portico and sent a pm, but is it portable? didn't seem like it
If you have a fork lift ;D
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i saw the portico and sent a pm, but is it portable? didn't seem like it
At first glance, they don't appear to be portable because they come standard with rack mount ears, but they can be powered from batteries or a wall wart. I've never owned one, but I think they're a little bigger than a V3.
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i saw the portico and sent a pm, but is it portable? didn't seem like it
If you have a fork lift ;D
Portable is definitely a relative term
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I generally lean clean, but I'm currious to hear what a Neve portico would do in my chains, since of the 'preamps with color' that's one that piques my interest. I probably won't though simply because of practicalites (size, weight, extra battery, additional potential points of failure with more connections).. and if I really dug it I'd need to rethink things to accomodate all that.
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i saw the portico and sent a pm, but is it portable? didn't seem like it
If you have a fork lift ;D
Portable is definitely a relative term
kangfirmed
A cart or other rolling apparatus goes a long way, but I wouldn't know anything about that...
In the case of the portico, they don't call it "big iron" for nothing.
I generally lean clean, but I'm currious to hear what a Neve portico would do in my chains, since of the 'preamps with color' that's one that piques my interest. I probably won't though simply because of practicalites (size, weight, extra battery, additional potential points of failure with more connections).. and if I really dug it I'd need to rethink things to accomodate all that.
Ditto. It's a specialty piece of gear IMHO, not something I'd want to use all the time, and I'd want to be very familiar with the sound to know when to use it and when not to. I have heard some impressive results with it though, and I suspect the silk mode on stage to temper some of those super clear transients would be really attractive...
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OK i have a portico, and havent used it yet in the field?! :facepalm: Ive just been running my Telefunken rig exclusively...I bought it thinking i was going to build another rig and i am at some point. I dont know if the one in the yardsale has the milled off rack ears but that is what i did to mine in this pic. yes its big but it is much more magable with the ears gone. Also i have this rakgear backpack for it and it fits great in there.
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actually, now that I think about it, sticking the portico (set to minimum gain) in front of my playback stereo equipment would be a hell of a coloration option... :hmmm: :guitarist:
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I ran a Portico for a little bit, it's heavy yes but the real issue is the depth. The sound is worth it though, with or without silk. When I ran mine I had a Battery Geek portable power pack that ran it for at least 5 hours. If I had the cash I'd grab the one in the YS & make it fit.