Author Topic: Vimeo (what's the deal?) (Read 8112 times)

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **on:** May 05, 2011, 01:47:41 PM »

So they charge $60 a year. I'm unclear what that gets me that Youtube doesn't for free. Please enlighten me folks. Any paying members here? There's no way I could do a free account. 500mb a week. yikes.

stantheman1976 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2011, 02:08:41 PM »

I think a lot of people who consider themselves professionals or serious hobbyists like Vimeo because it's more exclusive and there's not quite as much junk as Youtube. You don't have to wade through as much junk to get to a good video. Unless it has changed Vimeo also only allows user created material. That means you're not going to see 500 videos of someone who pointed their crappy camera at the TV screen to record Britney's TV appearance and upload it.

If you just want to upload a few clips to share it doesn't really matter that much. If you have a bunch of HD content you want to put online Vimeo Plus might not be a bad idea.

OFOTD · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2011, 02:33:35 PM »

Vimeo doesn't allow commercial, gaming or porn videos unless posted by the actual copyright holder (I think no porn period). Many record labels are using Vimeo to present music videos, controlled song leaks, etc. Vimeo has a more stringent filtering system so that unauthorized copyrighted material doesn't show up. Also its a site to keep an eye on since so many content providers are using it now in hopes to change the illegal copyright violations that are all over YouTube.

One of the initial plusses of Vimeo was that it allowed HD content and the majority of its hosted content is in HD. YouTube obviously has recently added HD abiility. Vimeo also allows you in most cases to have your video available for download unlike YouTube which requires 3rd party software.

Like YouTube (Google) they are owned by a Big Brother type company, IAC. IAC owns a bunch of different and popular websites. Its CEO is Barry Diller. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAC_%28company%29

rastasean · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2011, 04:35:55 PM »

I like Stan's & David's remarks.

Youtube has become nothing more than a self-proclaimed, self-promoting video site with all kinds of crappy videos. People post crappy reviews of anything thinking a company should atomically give them something for free. If you upload something to vimeo, it isn't instant (at least hasn't been for me in the past) but if you're a paying client, I think you skip the queue and its up a lot sooner.
My more desired groups at vimeo is Time Lapse
http://vimeo.com/search/groups/search:Time%20lapse/203fe481

Good info on the IAC.

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2011, 11:20:32 PM »

Thanks for the info. But still a bit confused. So would they allow me to up full shows? (by song of course) Would a cover song be an issue? Confused on the copyright thing. I have no issues being a paying member but I don't want to have stuff rejected when I upload it.

Gordon · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06, 2011, 01:00:31 AM »

my understanding is they only want (allow) you to up content that you yourself shot/filmed etc etc. I started using it a few years ago (for single tracks from my video work) b/c at the time the quality was WAY better! even with the improvements youtube has done I feel my clips look better on vimeo than they do on youtube (encoded and uploaded the exact same format). the limit sucks but I only did SD fottage so it never really came into play. I like the layout and format much better than youtube.

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2011, 03:05:54 AM »

Thanks for the info. I have a free account setup. Maybe I'll upload a few of my better tracks to see what they look like.

stantheman1976 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2011, 06:23:37 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvTvMfeJ8s

Here's a perfect example of what I was talking about with Youtube.

Edit:
If you watch some of the other associated clips it also brings up the old argument about artists not allowing recording. If you watch the audience literally every other person is holding up their iPhone, digital camera, or smart phone recording it and they all end up on Youtube. So why is it so terrible if a normal person wants to bring a recording device to a performance and make sure it's captured with decent quality? They'd rather have 1,000 shaky cell phone clips show up online.

shoestringconcerts · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:53:37 PM »

Vimeo quality is better(higher bitrate) so your videos look better.
Vimeo was the 1st to offer HD streaming but now other sites have caught up

Less ad's

Shadow_7 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2011, 09:00:41 AM »

Youtube is getting pretty ridiculous with ads. 1:30 ads to watch a 0:10 clip. But it's free, and other social networking capabilities that I think vimeo lacks. There is that 15 minute limit, unless you're on youtubes good side.

I've never found vimeo particularly easy to navigate. And they apparently delete free accounts if you haven't done anything with it in the past 90 days. And other WTF qualities. If you're like me and are more seasonal (annual events), vimeo is pretty much useless IMO. And $60 a year is kind of ridiculous. You can almost host your own website for that cash these days.

rastasean · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2011, 09:59:16 AM »

vimeo and youtube* are not perfect but I think they are doing good*. $60 a year certainly can get you a website but its much harder to promote that than a video on two very popular sites and there are issues with process limit. Not all web hosting companies are going to let you upload HD quality videos and have all your friends check it out all day long since you most likely wouldn't be getting a dedicated server just for videos.
I have had my vimeo account for about a year...probably longer than that...and I don't upload something to it every 90 days. I suppose a TOS change has taken place from when I created my account, though.

*Of course youtube would be better if it cut down on the ads. not EVERY video needs some silly ad.

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2011, 11:24:09 PM »

I've never gotten an ad. What is that all about? It plays before the video? Weird.

Shadow_7 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2011, 10:01:47 AM »

Quote from: Mark Burgin™ on May 22, 2011, 11:24:09 PM

I've never gotten an ad. What is that all about? It plays before the video? Weird.

It might be like hulu. After X number of views it just kicks in. On hulu when I first got there, I watched a whole season of a show with minimal at best ads, then after that, it's almost worse than Direct TV. Noting how shows from the 80s seem to have 49 minute episodes and shows from the 00s seem to have 42 minute episodes. Individual users can select it on youtube I guess. But it defaults to on iirc. And the more popular shows who derive some form of compensation package have it on. Even for short video responses and other less commercial endeavors.

rastasean · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2011, 10:23:12 AM »

a popup banner can be seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ2u3RmspYg

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:37:15 PM »

So you're talking about the box that says ad by google? Ya none of mine have that. But then I don't have 100's of thousands of views on anything. That might be why?

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