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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #390 on: July 06, 2022, 12:18:06 PM »
I just got another one of these to replace my faulty one from a few years back.


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Are you just pairing this one time with your phone and leaving bluetooth setting ON in the A-10 or switching bluetooth off when not in use?

In what way was it faulty?
Mine had sticky controls out of the box, and a replacement didn’t fix that. My R-07 was better in that regard (But not perfect)
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #391 on: July 10, 2022, 05:59:44 AM »
There was a thunderstorm at night.
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #392 on: July 10, 2022, 08:43:33 PM »
That storm sounds pretty good to me!  A good wide natural soundstage and a balanced frequency response.  Perhaps the very lowest frequencies of the storm are lost but it doesn't sound thin.  Not having been there at the time it's hard to be sure.  It's a great little recorder for such audio "kodak moments" - maybe the name should be "sony moments"!

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #393 on: July 10, 2022, 10:08:33 PM »
What does MNL mean on the display? The M10 didn't have this on the display?
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #394 on: July 10, 2022, 11:33:21 PM »
What does MNL mean on the display? The M10 didn't have this on the display?

Manual gain settings as opposed to auto gain
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #395 on: July 11, 2022, 05:20:31 AM »
That storm sounds pretty good to me!  A good wide natural soundstage and a balanced frequency response.  Perhaps the very lowest frequencies of the storm are lost but it doesn't sound thin.  Not having been there at the time it's hard to be sure.  It's a great little recorder for such audio "kodak moments" - maybe the name should be "sony moments"!
Yes, you are right, the lower end is slightly lowered, which is typical for a cardio microphone. But this is easily corrected in the post 2-3-4 dB plus. It was possible to put the recorder on the floor, like a PZM, but it was already wet there. With external omni on the ground (Clippy EM272), the LF rises more than I can hear with my ears in place.
Quite often they ask whether the PCM-A10 is suitable for nature, industrial and other sound? I think more than. Device from the series "grab and record".
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #396 on: July 11, 2022, 09:48:00 AM »
What does MNL mean on the display? The M10 didn't have this on the display?

Manual gain settings as opposed to auto gain

That one puzzles me for a second literally every time I notice it. "Did I accidentally turn on the Mono Normalization Levels? The Midrange Noise Limiter? The ... oh, duh."

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #397 on: July 18, 2022, 04:26:53 AM »
Had a wildly disheartening gear failure tonight.

A10 showed levels, app showed levels, but just played back file, and it's dead silent after about 50 mins (and of course the main act came out an hour into recording).

I was monitoring levels during show and know it was showing as fine.

Appears to be SDHC card issue. I made 5 second recording just now, it shows levels, and I try to play back, this one just returns error overall.

I'm holding out some small shred of hope that maybe I can recover the audio somehow once I get home... but given that the first 50 mins of recording plays fine, and then nothing, I am not optimistic.

Was a ridiculously killer show too. So bummed. Teach me to try off-brand cards. Just can't believe it's possible to SEE LEVELS RECORDING FINE and end up with nothing.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #398 on: July 18, 2022, 07:32:04 AM »
Bummer.  Indeed that does make one regard the whole process with deep suspicion!

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #399 on: July 18, 2022, 09:27:30 AM »
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #400 on: July 18, 2022, 01:22:46 PM »
One of the reasons I run two rigs at each show.  My condolences!   

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #401 on: July 18, 2022, 01:38:29 PM »

Was a ridiculously killer show too. So bummed. Teach me to try off-brand cards. Just can't believe it's possible to SEE LEVELS RECORDING FINE and end up with nothing.

Uggggh, so sorry. That is the absolute worst.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #402 on: July 18, 2022, 04:04:46 PM »
Just a quick recap if anyone could help as I just got one of these…

Running something like Church Audio mics with a battery box, I assume it’s “audio in” and then I see “Auto Gain Ctrl” defaults to “High”. Do I need to set that to “Low” every time or do the mics/battery override this?

What’s “MNL” on the screen? Manual gain?

Anyone know what Unity Gain is?

Sorry I know some of this is probably scattered throughout these threads….
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #403 on: July 18, 2022, 04:10:25 PM »

Running something like Church Audio mics with a battery box, I assume it’s “audio in” and then I see “Auto Gain Ctrl” defaults to “High”. Do I need to set that to “Low” every time or do the mics/battery override this?

I don't know, because I've never used Auto Gain, and can't imagine why you would want to, since auto gain results in horrible wild gain swings. (I ruined my first ever recording that way.) Is there a reason you don't want to use manual gain and do any level fixing in post?


What’s “MNL” on the screen? Manual gain?

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #404 on: July 18, 2022, 04:17:56 PM »
Thanks.

I don’t want to use “Auto Gain”.

I assume then that the “MNL” indication on the screen is indicating that I’m not using it?

Therefore the “High/Low” is irrelevent?
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