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ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« on: December 28, 2021, 08:14:35 PM »
I'm moving to an nbob active setup and want a bar that I can use to spread between two Shure a53m doughnuts. In the past when using 4061's, I've connected a pair of  Shure transmitter antennas and extended them outward from each side of the stand, but what material could I use for the heavier, fullsize MG capsules & nbob colletes?


is there any off the shelf solution I should consider? I have a Manfrotto 154 Triple Bar  but am looking for something sleeker and light weight, preferably something that collapses or folds. Thanks for your help!

« Last Edit: December 28, 2021, 08:18:23 PM by boa »
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2021, 08:44:08 PM »
Check out the SmallRig15 mm camera rails and their mounting hardware. Can go 3 or 4 feet (and probably more) with no problem and they are pretty solid. You can unscrew the different section. I run 2 pairs of SDCs (AT 3031s, Studio Projects C4s) plus the mini omnis on the ends without issue (check my rig pics). Rocksuitcase turned me on to those.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2021, 12:15:48 PM »
https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-rod-pack-6-pcs-1659.html

+T's for the SmallRig recommendation.

This will really enhance my extendable DIY mounting solution. I love options that have the ability to extend to greater widths, but also allow for breakdown to a very small footprint.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2021, 02:31:56 PM »
That's a nice modular solution from SmallRig.  It's looks a lot like the system audBall put together for himself in DIY fashion, which is IMHO one of the best solutions I've seen.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 03:54:55 PM »
Mine arrived this week. Very nice and durable.

I also picked up up a pair of M12 > 1/4" adapters for mounting at the rod ends.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072KN8GXS
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2022, 04:22:51 PM »
When I was messing with spread omnis, I used a Manfrotto extension pole attached to my stand with a small clamp. Mic mounts screw to each end of the extension pole and you can adjust width as needed. I borrowed this idea from Jeff Mitchell.

https://www.manfrotto.com/us-en/mini-clamp-171/
https://www.manfrotto.com/us-en/3-section-black-extension-pole-for-light-stands-35-92-099b/

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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2022, 05:49:30 PM »
smallrig is what I use.

we have a 4ft bar in 4x 1 ft sections. I love that it fits in my bag so I dont have to carry the monfrotto bar and have a conversation about it at the door.

we run nbobs and dpas on it. i dont recall if we've ever run the full 461's with the bodies and rycotes
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2022, 07:38:53 PM »
I went with Smallrig parts and put together multiple omni bars of varying lengths. Here is what I plan to use most, setup in a modified Healy method, about 12 inches or so from cap to cap and plenty of space between. I am using a bread bar with 1/4" and 3/8" threaded holes, centered by a rapid connector with a 1/4" stem and have attached a rycote w/DINa bar in addition to the Shure a53's on each end. This is super sturdy and dynamic; you can make the bar as long as you want and add additional adapters to secure more mounts. As I make a switch to actives I wanted a small, compact setup for two and four channels and this is as lightweight as I'd hoped for. Having read Voltronic's review of the 9.solutions Savior Clamp, I grabbed one and it is perfect for this Smallrig setup. Now I'll be clamping FOB more and carrying a stand less.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2022, 10:24:35 AM »
very good looking. especially with all four loaded up. Nice and light for carrying. You can then add two more straight 12' pieces, no threading, to go out for a full 3 feet spread with the omnis.  >:D
IMO, when we run OMT, the ideal setup is one where all of the parts are on one stand, as opposed to splitting the omnis on two stands. (All other things considered  8) )
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2022, 11:07:12 AM »
I went with Smallrig parts and put together multiple omni bars of varying lengths. Here is what I plan to use most, setup in a modified Healy method, about 12 inches or so from cap to cap and plenty of space between. I am using a bread bar with 1/4" and 3/8" threaded holes, centered by a rapid connector with a 1/4" stem and have attached a rycote w/DINa bar in addition to the Shure a53's on each end. This is super sturdy and dynamic; you can make the bar as long as you want and add additional adapters to secure more mounts. As I make a switch to actives I wanted a small, compact setup for two and four channels and this is as lightweight as I'd hoped for. Having read Voltronic's review of the 9.solutions Savior Clamp, I grabbed one and it is perfect for this Smallrig setup. Now I'll be clamping FOB more and carrying a stand less.

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That looks great boa!  Can you post a link for the bread bar that you're using?  Thanks!
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2022, 11:33:24 AM »

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That looks great boa!  Can you post a link for the bread bar that you're using?  Thanks!

My bad; its actually called a Cheese Rod, and I got it at B and H Photo:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1421808-REG/smallrig_1462_15mm_cheese_rod_m12_197mm.html

They are also available here: https://www.adorama.com/sr1462.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organicshopping&utm_source=adl-gbase-o
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2022, 12:46:20 PM »
Nice flexible arrangement.. with Lyre suspension for the Gefells where better shocks might matter, and the Shure donuts making for a nice compact, clean, secure mounting for the omnis, probably not heavy enough to really load them shock-wise, yet shouldn't matter much for omnis.

I should pickup one of those sweet clamps!
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2022, 09:01:52 AM »
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