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Re: Shure big ass wind screens
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2022, 02:43:29 PM »
If you are looking for a replacement, these block as much or more wind noise as the Shure / DPA style huge foamies without the HF roll-off.

https://www.adorama.com/mvwst50.html
I used those like 3 times and went back to BAS's. They didnt seem to do much of anything in a light breeze. Just my experience.

I'm kind of shocked to hear that, given that I have used them in 40 mph wind gusts with my CM3s multiple times. I wonder if you had a bad fit?
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Re: Shure big ass wind screens
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2022, 03:08:56 PM »
Could be fit, or might just be the microphone's greater susceptibility to wind noise.

As for fit- I posted recently about how minor "leaks" at the elastic cuff area of the BAS can result in major wind problems that these windscreens would otherwise be completely capable of handling, and did fully handle once I took measures to correct the problem, working it out in a windy parking lot monitoring through headphones.

On the other front- CM3 is over toward the subcardioid side of cardioid, which places it closer to the omni end of the pattern spectrum and less susceptible to wind and handling noise.  If the microphones that jcable77 was using were closer to the fig-8 side of things than the omni side, perhaps supercard/hypercarioids, they would naturally be more susceptible to wind even if the windscreen fit was correct.
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Re: Shure big ass wind screens
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2022, 04:24:08 PM »
If you are looking for a replacement, these block as much or more wind noise as the Shure / DPA style huge foamies without the HF roll-off.

https://www.adorama.com/mvwst50.html
I used those like 3 times and went back to BAS's. They didnt seem to do much of anything in a light breeze. Just my experience.

I'm kind of shocked to hear that, given that I have used them in 40 mph wind gusts with my CM3s multiple times. I wonder if you had a bad fit?
Im not sure? I thought they were pretty snug. It was a few years ago so my memory could be off a bit. It was at a festival with ck61's with actives. Maybe I didnt push them on as far as I needed? First 2 evenings there was barely any wind at all and wind noise was light but evident. Third night it was definitely breezy and I remember getting home, checking out the files and being somewhat pissed that the third night was completely toast. I ended up putting em up on YS the next day. It could have possibly been the fit with the actives.

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Re: Shure big ass wind screens
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2022, 06:28:16 PM »
I dont have these screens but  i would imagine you might be able to close any gaps at the opening with some carefully placed gaff tape.. 
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Re: Shure big ass wind screens
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2022, 06:49:14 PM »
^That may work fine for the Movo with the big rubber cuff to stick the tape to. 

But it doesn't work well for BAS.  I tried several months back. First, the tape adhesive tears up the foam. Secondly, it doesn't really work well anyway, even if you don't care about tearing up the foam. The tape doesn't stick well, and any folds or imperfections allows wind to sneak between the tape and foam.  After struggling with gaff tape, I got good results from warping a piece of fake fur around the back of the BAS windscreen, carefully so that it completely covers the black elastic foam part with a snug fit all the way around, then fastening that in place with a couple small binder clips.  That fixed the wind leakage from the back without covering the entire foam windscreen in a fr cover.

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There are 5 BAS in in use there, four with the partial fur covers on the back, the fifth housing the center mic pair inside one BAS over which I put a Rycote Windjammer intended for their BBG that covered the entire BAS, secured with its integrated draw-string closure in back.
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Re: Shure big ass wind screens
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 09:00:54 AM »
If you are looking for a replacement, these block as much or more wind noise as the Shure / DPA style huge foamies without the HF roll-off.

https://www.adorama.com/mvwst50.html
I used those like 3 times and went back to BAS's. They didnt seem to do much of anything in a light breeze. Just my experience.

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As others have mentioned, there must have been a bad fit there, or a defect.  I've used these screens in windy conditions numerous times and they were effective with no resulting wind damage.
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