agreed, i have a 20' pair of the bumblebee cables marc made(actually the first 'really thin' pair i believe) vut anyway, the 20' pair rolls up to a 7 inch diameter, thats it
the heaviest things are the neutriks
and the sound blows away my old audio magic x-streams though i never did an A/B comp, theyre SOOO much cleaner and detailed, and theyre 100% Handmade w/ Quality
spend the $$ and get them, your tapes will thank you