Topic: <$4K stealth setup......go!

[manamana]

Hi all.

I used to run around with some TLM 170s, a lunatec, and an apogee, but sold it all in '03 when my tastes changed somewhat and I needed the money.

looking to get back into it now, but most of the shows I see these days don't allow open taping. trying to keep it in the 3-4K range.

my thoughts: used 722/702 + used DPA 402x.

another possibility is used 402x> ??> R1

looking for other ideas to check out. must be 24bit. MT seems like more hassel than it's worth...has that changed?

and if anyone has any of these things for sale, please let me know your price. (I'm keeping an eye on the yard sale)

Best,
C

[Zaphod]

4022>Sanosax>Edirol R-09 wouldn't be too shabby. 

[gewwang]

4022>Sanosax>Edirol R-09 wouldn't be too shabby. 

My sentiments exactly


Used 402x approximately $2200-2500 with mounts but you only see a used set every 3-4 months
Used Sonosax SX-M2 $650-750
new R-09 $350
new 4GB Transcend SD card $57 after buy.com $30 rebate

Total ~ $3657

So it's under $4k but used 402x and sonosaxes are hard to find.

[stober]

There are some used 4021's in the yard sale right.Robert is a stand up guy and takes very good care of his gear.http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72257.0

[manamana]

I thought about the sonosax...I remember using one once or twice with the 170s and not liking it much (more from a useability standpoint than sound-wise)

I kind of really like the "all in one" appeal of the SD 7x2 units. they seem to be wonderful in terms of useability. How does the preamp in the SD compare to the SX-M2?

when using both the pre and AD on a 722 at 24/96, how much battery life do you get? is the 702 any better? (I'm thinking a used 702 should be around $1500, If I can find one, and would weigh slightly less)

here's another thought: would it be possible to get the 402xs, an r-09, and some phanotm battery boxes, just to tide me over till I can find a good deal on a 7x2 serries? more or less I'm wondering about the pre in the 09.

I think I met robert at a couple shows around 01. I know we at least traded email or tapes. That's a great kit, but probably more than I'm looking to spend, and I don't need all the odd mounting accessories. might be an option if I don't come across anything else though.

[Chris K]

schoeps mk4 > Nbox > R-9   would be my choice and would be easily under $4k

[gewwang]

I kind of really like the "all in one" appeal of the SD 7x2 units. they seem to be wonderful in terms of useability. How does the preamp in the SD compare to the SX-M2?

If this is meant to be a stealth rig, just make sure you can stealth the SD 7x2 in all situations you plan to stealth in. You can stealth the SD7x2 in many situations but probably not as easily as with a preamp or battery boxes > R-09. If you always plan to stealth with your recorder in an external bag for instance, then you'd be fine with an SD 7x2.

[manamana]

yeah, size and heat are the main concerns if I go with a 7 serries. I guess it's a trade off for ease-of-use and fewer wires/connections to worry about.

in terms of size, how much bigger is the 7x2 than a v2/3?

most of the taping I'll be doing, It can probably go in a messenger bag (though well hidden). I was hoping to find something that could pass the occasional pat-down in one of those fake beergut things.

has anyone ever run a 7x2 on a shoulder strap under a jacket? how bad was the heat?

[macdaddy]

the SD 722 box gets hotter than blue blazes if its buried too deeply.

removed 702 from my comment. not sure why I included it

i think tj was gonna try to use his 722 and only write to a cf card this weekend. i think that will cut down substantially on the heat... i shouldve given him mine to use, but he said he was gonna order one himself, 'cos the one i have, that we used last week, works perfectly in the 722...

[agave]

i'm using ccm41lg's schoeps iinto a Marantz 660 acm by Oade all was all had for under 4g's  I know it's only 16 bit but when a new & smaller flash deck comes out that has phantom power & the full size lockable 3 pin mic inputs i'll get the higher bit machine .. but right now it's a sweet setup for stealth .. but not to have a box or anything esle  between my mics & the deck is priceless to me  Cf cards are the only way no adding signal as the mini drives do add signal & they do have moving parts   agin this is all I M H O

[sygdwm]

402X>oade mod 671/p2. way under your budget. no heat, slightly larger than 722/02.

[Rick]

Schoeps MKx > Sonosax SX-M2/LS2  > Edirol R-09
or
Schoeps CCM4x> Sonosax SX-M2 > Edirol R-09

[nickgregory]

fwiw I run the 4022->722 and love it...solid single box setup, though the comments are right, it is not exactly stealthable in some of the patdown/wand type environments as it isnt exactly as concealable as a couple of small boxes.  Given that Georges sax-R1/R09 setup sounds fantastic as well...all really depends on the types of environments you tape in and how "stealthy" you want to be...

[Craig T]

definitely.  that or sub a 722 for the r9 (obviously the r9 is going to be more "stealthy").  also, if considering the NBox, go for the "+" mod (cap upgrades).

I run mk4/mk21>nbox+>722 and was running tlm170>v2>ad1000, a51tl>v3 and lsd2>v3 previously, so I know where you're coming from.

schoeps mk4 > Nbox > R-9   would be my choice and would be easily under $4k

[F.O.Bean]

Schoeps MKx > Sonosax SX-M2/LS2  > Edirol R-09
or
Schoeps CCM4x> Sonosax SX-M2 > Edirol R-09

bingo

schoeps>sax has always been my fav phish tape combo