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Re: OMG....Help me please.
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2008, 02:47:17 PM »
I don't think this issue had anything to do with the split point. His actual file was about 2mb short of 2gb and that should be alright.

The problem started at 14:28 in the file. Clearly these things were not related.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2008, 03:04:29 PM »
I re-formatted the card on the R-09 last night. I made 4 recordings (at different bit/sample rates). All have the same problem when it gets to a certain point on the card. It's either a bad card or a bad recorder. I'm hoping it's the card. Ordered a new card last night.
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Re: OMG....Help me please.
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2008, 03:15:50 PM »
I don't think this issue had anything to do with the split point. His actual file was about 2mb short of 2gb and that should be alright.

The problem started at 14:28 in the file. Clearly these things were not related.

Right.  I was just confused by this line:  "I accidentally had the track split set to 2GB."  What should it be set at, if not 2GB?  And is setting it at 2GB a generally bad idea?

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2008, 03:43:51 PM »
I don't think this issue had anything to do with the split point. His actual file was about 2mb short of 2gb and that should be alright.

The problem started at 14:28 in the file. Clearly these things were not related.

Right.  I was just confused by this line:  "I accidentally had the track split set to 2GB."  What should it be set at, if not 2GB?  And is setting it at 2GB a generally bad idea?

If it splits at exactly 2GB, I wouldn't do it, but if it is a little under, then it's OK.
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Re: OMG....Help me please.
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2008, 09:46:01 PM »
2gb split setting is your friend.
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Re: OMG....Help me please.
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2008, 10:55:12 AM »
Well, I took at look at the waves too, and concur, they can't be recovered.  At about 14:30, white noise prevails.  A few images followed by shntool output is below...

Here's the original wave:


Apply Audition 2.0 Noise Filter:


Interesting Audacity image of the original wave:


* Following implies that the wave file is fine structurally.   
F:\Music\Other\Tom Petty Files 2008-06-25>shntool len r09_0001.wav
    length     expanded size    cdr  WAVE problems  fmt   ratio  filename
   124:12.896    2146434092 B   cxx   --   -----    wav  1.0000  r09_0001.wav
   124:12.896    2146434092 B                            1.0000  (1 file)

F:\Music\Other\Tom Petty Files 2008-06-25>
F:\Music\Other\Tom Petty Files 2008-06-25>
F:\Music\Other\Tom Petty Files 2008-06-25>shntool info r09_0001.wav
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
File name:                    r09_0001.wav
Handled by:                   wav format module
Length:                       124:12.896
WAVE format:                  0x0001 (Microsoft PCM)
Channels:                     2
Bits/sample:                  24
Samples/sec:                  48000
Average bytes/sec:            288000
Rate (calculated):            288000
Block align:                  6
Header size:                  44 bytes
Data size:                    2146434048 bytes
Chunk size:                   2146434084 bytes
Total size (chunk size + 8):  2146434092 bytes
Actual file size:             2146434092
File is compressed:           no
Compression ratio:            1.0000
CD-quality properties:
  CD quality:                 no
  Cut on sector boundary:     n/a
  Sector misalignment:        n/a
  Long enough to be burned:   n/a
WAVE properties:
  Non-canonical header:       no
  Extra RIFF chunks:          no
Possible problems:
  File contains ID3v2 tag:    no
  Data chunk block-aligned:   yes
  Inconsistent header:        no
  File probably truncated:    no
  Junk appended to file:      no
  Odd data size has pad byte: n/a

F:\Music\Other\Tom Petty Files 2008-06-25>

* The same can’t be said for the 2nd wave though:

F:\Music\Other\Tom Petty Files 2008-06-25>shntool info r09_0002.wav
shntool [info]: warning: none of the builtin format modules handle input file: [r09_0002.wav]

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2008, 12:33:58 PM »
I'm hoping it was the card.

thanks to all for their attempts to help fix this.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 12:22:19 PM »
Good news.....

got a new card and it works fine. At least it wasn't the new recorder....
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2008, 02:38:52 PM »
Good news.....

got a new card and it works fine. At least it wasn't the new recorder....


Good to hear, Charlie.
Damn that other SD card.  Sorry you had the trouble.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2008, 02:56:45 PM »
Good news.....

got a new card and it works fine. At least it wasn't the new recorder....


Good to hear, Charlie.
Damn that other SD card.  Sorry you had the trouble.
Now that everything's a "go," you'll have to take it to Anaheim.  ;)


Yeah, we're trying to score some killer seats. So I put the old 'bad' card in my duo-core 3.2ghz computer (this computer is fast). I tried to transfer 3GB of flac's to the card to test it. I figured I would see if they verified. It took 90 minutes to transfer 3GB to this card. That is nuts. I doubt that cards should be that slow. I haven't tried the new card in my pc, but it works great in the R-09.

so, what kinds of music do you like? I would like to send you something.
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Re: OMG....Help me please.
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2008, 05:00:07 PM »
OK...so I took the card and put some flac files onto it. none of them verified. bad card...lesson learned.
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