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Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« on: January 11, 2005, 11:54:30 AM »
So I wanted to start taping.
I have now a D8 and a JB3 for taping (will be using the JB3), I ordered some AT831s mics (SPCMC2s), but now I have no idea what to put between the recorder and the mics. Do I have to use anything to power the mics? Anything that can do ADC?

I have really no clue on this. Any help appreciated

NOTE: Stealth taping, low budget (don't suggest 3000$ battery boxes!)

Thanks!

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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 12:04:34 PM »
At minimum, you are going to need a batterybox.  That's the minimum you'll need to get going.
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 12:08:10 PM »
sound pros battery boxes are reasonable.  Just make sure you get one that uses standard 9v batteries, and not these little tiny weird batteries.
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2005, 09:04:20 AM »
Can suggest something to shoot for... 

Phantom power the 853's and get an MP-2...  Not exactly starter, but you will be very happy with the results...
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2005, 07:56:50 PM »
i'd think they'd be much happier going to better mics and a full rig sytem if they're going to get phantom power mods and an mp2..just me though.

as for the question, check out soundprofessionals.com. look for the SP-SPSB-1 or SP-SPSB-6 (i think those are the right numbers). the difference is basically a cute little plastic case :)
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2005, 07:59:53 PM »
You'll need some kind of preamp to get your recording up to line level.  If not, you may hear small beeps in your recording.  Denecke AD20 will do the trick.

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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2005, 05:12:09 PM »
Thanks for suggestions

Finally I'm going something like this

AT853 phantom > PS2 > JB3.

Is this enough? ( No money to get a AD20 :( )


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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 07:15:20 AM »
you can get a PS-2 AND an AD20 for 300 buck in the yard sale area.  I run 853>ps2>ad20>jb3 and have really liked the results (Thanks TS.COM!).  I'll attach a short sample of my latest recording so you can decide from yourself. This was FOB 5th row centre in a club of about 200 people...
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2005, 12:08:20 PM »
great sample, voice sounds great, but I don't have money t oget an AD20.
I think I will get some transformers (they should give a little preamp), that should be really cheap and enough, right?

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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2005, 04:50:25 PM »
I have the SP cmc4 (At853) mics with a soundprofessionals batterybox and a D8 and I am really happy with my tapes. I also have a JB3 and have a AD20 with that one. The AD20->JB3 is a bit better but the difference isn´t mileswide.
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2005, 05:27:47 AM »
I have the SP cmc4 (At853) mics with a soundprofessionals batterybox and a D8 and I am really happy with my tapes. I also have a JB3 and have a AD20 with that one. The AD20->JB3 is a bit better but the difference isn´t mileswide.

I should clarify that my AD20 is a modded version with built in 9V for the mics. The standard AD20 doesn´t have this option so you would have to power the mics somehow.

My suggestion is that you get a batterybox for the mics and start with the D8. If you like the mics you can always think of something for the JB3 later. AT831 -> Batterybox -> D8 is a rig you can get through security pretty easy. Ad20-> JB3 is a bit bigger and could be difficult to get in if there is a search at the door and you are alone.

OR

Sell the D8 and get some money for something like a AD20 for the JB3.
If you have set your mind on using the JB3 you don´t need the D8 anyway.
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Re: Newbie: What to put between my JB3 and my AT831s??
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2005, 01:44:51 PM »
I'm going thru this now as well.  My mics from SoundProfessisonal are ISI-SGNM-1 mini-cardioids mounted in a gooseneck.

What I found was that the battery box SP-SPSB-1 gives levels which are too small for JB3 even when cranked up to +12dB. 

So I'm going to try a pair of these:

http://www.rdlnet.com/stm-2.htm

and see how they sound unless I get overwhelming  comments here that they won't work well.  I've seen them on ebay from time to time for like $10.

I had already started a thread on this pre-amp to see what experienced people think about them, don't mean to be redundant here in this thread.

Todd in Buffalo


So I wanted to start taping.
I have now a D8 and a JB3 for taping (will be using the JB3), I ordered some AT831s mics (SPCMC2s), but now I have no idea what to put between the recorder and the mics. Do I have to use anything to power the mics? Anything that can do ADC?

I have really no clue on this. Any help appreciated

NOTE: Stealth taping, low budget (don't suggest 3000$ battery boxes!)

Thanks!
« Last Edit: February 28, 2005, 01:54:19 PM by tms »
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